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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:58 pm 
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I know they are a WIDE motor but...
Has it been done?
Is it possible?

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:20 pm 
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i reckon it would be nearly unpossible....

can i ask why?

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:46 pm 
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Free 2L impreza motor and gearbox + my other swb i'm building needs a new engine.

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:48 pm 
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Anything is possible if you have the budget and skills.

But it would just be the start of the mods. Not a single remaining part of the driveline would withstand that sort of power and torque.

EDIT: NA EJ20 is only 100kw. Should be ok if you drive nice.

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 10:49 pm 
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sell the boxer & put the money towards a G16

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:11 pm 
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^^ dont listen to them... do it!!! =)

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Post Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 11:52 pm 
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Boxer engine would have to be wider than the clearance between chassis rails? Measure it up, I'd be amazed if it would fit but would love to see the potential.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 2:31 am 
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The tyres would rub on the heads on full lock. :lol:

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 5:16 am 
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Won't fit. The engine and gearbox would sit too high to work in the tunnel. You'd have to somehow mate another gearbox to it as well

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Moar body lift pompoms

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:08 am 
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Mid engined...

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 6:28 am 
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I think Gwagen has done the measurements and confirmed it to be impossible to fit into the engine bay for what would be a suitable conversion. Just put a commodore motor in you know you want to ;) .

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:00 am 
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I'd rather out in a 1L than a commodore motor!!!!
Time to get a g16b. My mate has an auto lwb bit for sale at the right price, will the auto fit in a swb sierra??

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:00 am 
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use the drive train from the subaru & make it AWD

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:03 am 
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use the drive train from the subaru & make it AWD


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

It's gonna need a pretty big ruf and chassis extension to make that work

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 9:41 am 
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An EA81 or EA81T motor should fit been much narrower pushrod etc.
I fell in love with the older pushrod subey engines due to their indestructibility and power when supercharged.
A speedway one blew away Fontana and top racers years ago on methanol and a hillclimber did the same to much more sophisticated bike engined setups on a few QLD hillclimb events.

http://www.debower.net/gimages/pa20.JPG

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It fits well in a Suzuki Hatch FWD and RWD toyota W series box adapter are available for RWD only or for Toyota running gear 4wd.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:35 am 
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Dont conform and put a g16 in. Do the boxer and make it the meanest sounding sierra on the planet

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 11:46 am 
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flat 4's sound like a soggy harley. :roll:

quad rotor is where it's at, sounds like a F1 engine & shoots flaming bees & hornets out the exhaust . 8)

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:29 pm 
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flat 4's sound like a soggy harley. :roll:

quad rotor is where it's at, sounds like a F1 engine & shoots flaming bees & hornets out the exhaust . 8)


Pretty sure the flames are from something like a bee*r rev limiter

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 12:40 pm 
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considering it's running an aftermarket ecu, i doubt they'd tack on a bee-r limiter, but yeah it would be an ignition cut rev limiter. the big fire balls is just unburnt fuel getting ignited in the exhaust from when he lifts off.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 1:54 pm 
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why not go all out and chuck a 6 rotor in it in that case. good luck with engine longevity

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:26 pm 
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a rotor if looked after like anything mechanical will last, 2 mates have rotors that were built in the early 90's & neither of them have had any of these so called "longevity" issues, one is a 12a extend port & turbo & the other is a 13b bridge port.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:35 pm 
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my point was. a rotary in a 4wd is kinda pointless. just like a diesel in a sierra

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:36 pm 
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why's that, cause they have no torque?

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 3:55 pm 
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the link is broken to the dyno sheet i posted but this was in the youtube thread

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Rotaries have :no: torque


i call BS, on that one... they have a very flat torque curve.

700+ lb of torque from essentially a 1.3l
http://www.madazmotorsport.bravehost.co ... 2-2008.jpg


A 13b is the equivalent to a 2.6l piston engine due to the greater displacement per revolution. If I read this right
http://www.drivingsports.com/site/2008/ ... uivalency/

If I use the HP calculation of torque x rpm / 5252, working back from that Dyno sheet that car is producing max HP at around 1800 rpm. If that is correct that its heaps of torque and I will eat my own words.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:29 pm 
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why's that, cause they have no torque?


ha i researched the shit out of this a while ago, might have even posted some links in the rotor in a sierra thread... they have more pull across a larger rev range and I think even starting lower? maybe? than a g16.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:33 pm 
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i agree shakes, that was my attempt at sarcasm, really should have used the sarcastic font

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:38 pm 
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The dont they idle at 2g?
I think you will find that any rotary making good power AND torque from down low will be lumpier than a stroker and there for pointless in a 4wd.

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Post Posted: Wed Nov 07, 2012 4:43 pm 
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The dont they idle at 2g?
I think you will find that any rotary making good power AND torque from down low will be lumpier than a stroker and there for pointless in a 4wd.

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yeah maybe when peripheral ported :roll:

stock 13b it will idle around 1000rpm

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subi engines are a very awsome motor as fatzook said it would be a massive job but it would be fricken awsome if u could pull it off

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