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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
Vehicle: Vit
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:45 am |
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Hey, So If once I put these in ( http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... acers.html) would I be able to get them passed engineering wise? Has anyone got them passed? Im thinking about cutting them to only give 30mm extra strut length and the guys at lowrange think that this will be fine. thanks again guys!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 11:04 am |
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just buy extended struts from ARB, Dobinson or Ironman... no engineering required.
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:10 pm |
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yeah I have got extended struts from Dobinson =) and am looking for that little more lift using these and a spring spacer 
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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 Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 3:33 pm |
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Your CVs will be on borrowed time with a longer strut + spacer. Just gives you too much down travel, even with diff drops.
If you want it sitting higher chuck a spring spacer in, but I'd strongly recommend not spacing struts.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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all these CV's you keep breaking darky, are they new or 2nd hand?
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:37 am |
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If u put a 30mm spacer in as well u need to make sure ur diff drop is more then 30mm If it is u should be fine I run 70mm spacers and its fine Dark hourse u got bigger problem in ur front end Have u got spacers on ur axels or r u running 2l cv I have 2x8mm plates welded on my lhs axel and stock cv r fine
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:27 am |
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If u put a 30mm spacer in as well u need to make sure ur diff drop is more then 30mm If it is u should be fine I run 70mm spacers and its fine Dark hourse u got bigger problem in ur front end Have u got spacers on ur axels or r u running 2l cv I have 2x8mm plates welded on my lhs axel and stock cv r fine
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:49 am |
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I had my eye on a 1" diff drop bracket cos I thought by lowering the diff 1" then lifting the car 1" with spring spacers (of 15mm in the front) wouldn't put any more pressure on my CVS than before? Thanks 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:01 am |
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The lift has very little affect on the cv as the hubs r unlocked most of the time Its the droop and steering lock the cv hate U can have 40mm more droop without a prob Thats y most after market struts are 40mm longer After that u need to move ur diff down what ever u move ur strut down Now where lift comes in to it is if u lift it 70mm then u want to drop ur diff down at least 30mm ( more is better) And drop strut down 70 mm so that u still have stock down travel If not it will ride like shit
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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yeah i think Darkhorse has other issues causing it to much CV's... to answer the original question, unless they come with some sort of certificate stating what they're made from etc, i'd dare say an engineer wouldn't approve them. personally i'd grab either of these before the poly spacers as they're a bit of an unknown IMO. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=34672viewtopic.php?f=7&t=34609
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:47 pm |
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Yeah I'm looking for something solid like the first link ^^ cos I want to cut them down so as not to kill my CVS because of my extra strut length  Are there any other options for strut spacers to buy new online that can be cut down? Thanks for your help guys 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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i might be having a case of the dumbs, do they mention what the spacers are made out of... being red, i thought they were poly?
i've run extended struts, strut spacers & a diff drop for more than 6 years now... the only times i've broken a CV is when i was being a nob-head with the locker on & when my tie rod snapped.
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:51 pm |
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Yeah your right it doesnt say what they are made out of! I'll have to email and ask =P but poly would be safe?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 6:56 pm |
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yeah poly will be fine if it's made from the right materials & has crush tubes. i'm guessing an engineer would want some sort of official paper work to ensure they were of the correct duro rating for the poly if you were going down the path of getting everything engineered. (i wish you luck if you are  i'd be budgeting 2-2.5 grand for the experience)
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:27 pm |
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okey dokey thanks mate =)
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 4:29 am |
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Just do a mout flip its 30mm
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:04 am |
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Yeah Im not so keen on that just cos its not meant to be that way but your probably right there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with doing that (from what Ive read) =P has anyone had any major problems with a strut mount flip?
btw I got an email back and the strut spacers are Poly =)
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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atari4x4 wrote: all these CV's you keep breaking darky, are they new or 2nd hand? I keep breaking standard ones, They're cheaper than having to buy chinese copies in which I broke one with the first outing on the same track that an OME CV did 4 times before.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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buzbox wrote: atari4x4 wrote: all these CV's you keep breaking darky, are they new or 2nd hand? I keep breaking standard ones, They're cheaper than having to buy chinese copies in which I broke one with the first outing on the same track that an OME CV did 4 times before. wasn't that when you had the diff bolted up to the wrong holes on the diff drop bracket on the RHS... don't think it's fair to blame the CV on that one 
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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Most of mine have been 2nd hand, and 1.6, including one since widening. I'm now running 2L to match the widening, and haven't fragged one yet, but haven't done much driving either. Survived Lithgow OK with no spacer and taking things relatively easy. Less than $100 for a used one from a wrecker compared to $230ish for a new one from Repco is an obvious choice when they become almost a consumable. Atari4x4 wrote: i've broken a CV is when i was being a nob-head with the locker on Probably on the right track here 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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atari4x4 wrote: buzbox wrote: atari4x4 wrote: all these CV's you keep breaking darky, are they new or 2nd hand? I keep breaking standard ones, They're cheaper than having to buy chinese copies in which I broke one with the first outing on the same track that an OME CV did 4 times before. wasn't that when you had the diff bolted up to the wrong holes on the diff drop bracket on the RHS... don't think it's fair to blame the CV on that one  Damn you and your memory  No that was a 2nd hander CV, and yes I'm to blame for that fk up.  I should do the passanger side CV swap thing on the drivers side. At least it would make things hell of a lot easier to change, and at the rate I'm going through them, there will be no more drivers side CV's available in Oz.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:44 am |
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i thought that was a chinese one you broke so my memory must be fading. 
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Dam u pay alotfor ur cv I get them for $100 cash new There shit but do the job I only do cv if its wedged up against a ledge and will not climb Fair enough with 31 locker gears And a heavy front end creat alot of traction on rock This is wat should destory cv 
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
Vehicle: Vit
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 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:51 am |
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So has anyone had any problems with a strut mount flip? Like then breaking? Ect?
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 1:46 pm |
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Never seen eny one with a problem befor
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:05 pm |
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the red strut spacers from low range are made of poly. I know as ive just had some for the GV delivered and they look to be made of the same stuff.
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 334
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 Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 4:35 pm |
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Sweet 
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