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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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Hi i was wondering what power steering upgrade is there for vitara's that are going to be running 35's?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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35's on a Vit & still IFS? 
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anastasios
Joined: Wed Aug 24, 2011 11:36 pm Posts: 58 Location: Sydney
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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IFS = Independent Front Suspension
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Hydro
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Get a new pump and cooler from low range If that's not enough get the box taped for hydro It's where u use a ram from the diff to the drag link to help push it around Or get the new pump and a box from another car Finding one to fit is the problem
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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A Vitara box will turn 35's fine with a hot rodded pump. The biggest problem is that your steering is going to get [i]SLOOOOW/i]
Pay carful attention to pitman arm length vs steering arm length to avoid this.
If this gets too hard, the premium upgrade would be a LHD IFS hilux box.
I don't know how many people have experience with hydro assist on a road-driven car, but the research I have done indicates it does slow the steering down a bit. That would drive me mad, especially in a car that already had too-slow steering because of a mismatch between pitman arm length and steering arm length. I was pretty keen to try hydro assist but the loss of speed that I've heard is the norm wouldn't be acceptable for me. I like to carry some speed on fast dirt and slow steering is unacceptable.
Steve.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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Why LHD Lux Steve? They get upgrades in the states? Question is how much else needs to be sourced/fabbed/modded to get it in...
Anyone know of anything a bit easier/cheaper to find? Other than the LROR $200 pump, $45 pulley, $50 bracket, $40 reservoir, $130ish of plumbing, $60 cooler, $135 for a beefier arm, $35 bracket... what's that, nearly $700 That's not actually that bad...
Hydro sounds horribly inefficient to me, but I can't claim to have researched it much.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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DarkHorse wrote: Why LHD Lux Steve? I think it is to do with fitting box on inside of chassis. I think? hi lux is mounted outside? This could all be BS, but sounds feasible
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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christover1 wrote: DarkHorse wrote: Why LHD Lux Steve? I think it is to do with fitting box on inside of chassis. I think? hi lux is mounted outside? This could all be BS, but sounds feasible Spot on. It sits on the outer side of the left rail in LHD format. This is perfect for fitting to the inside of the right hand rail for RHD.
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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oh ok thanks guys for your help i might just have a read about what there is to do if i just upgrade the power steering pump to the original box would that be good enough?
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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I thought an IFS lux had an inner chassis mounted box also.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Nope:  That's a LHD IFS box on a SAS swapped hilux.
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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:O that looks like the way to go but where over here would i be able to get one do they have them down in vic?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Depending on the track width of the axle you are going to be running in the front, along with tyre size and rim offset, you might no need a LHD IFS hilux box - a RHD box might be fine. LHD boxes are available from Trail Gear or Lowrange. http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... boxes.htmlSteve.
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orangeshannon
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 12:03 am Posts: 574 Location: Burwood, Victoria
Vehicle: yellow 83 sierra
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i think that i might be right about steering boxes i might be able to use the rhd as i think there should be plent of room to bolt it up be more the fact that it might get close to the engine i duno yet one thing at a time ay
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