[DSKEW3]

just wondering wat i should do first to my jimny? any ideas people

[zookcubr]

Suspension and tyres then whatever else you want later
snorkel, bullbar, two way radio, recovery gear, camping stuff etc

[alien]

tyres... put on some 215/75 BFG KM2s.. makes a MASSIVE difference.

[ajsr]

trade it on a sierra

[shep]

I reckon you should swap your car for cash and then buy a NT lwb 1.3 sierra.

Trust me, its the best thing to do.

[S13RR4]

full tank of petrol and some off road tracks, you'll find out what you need.

ie
you have no traction any where --> need more grip from your tyres

you keep getting caught up on your diff --> you need bigger tyres

you keep lifting wheels in the air --> you need more travel, so longer springs (lift)

you run into a kangaroo --> maybe get a bull bar

etc etc

[squibby]

alien wrote:

tyres... put on some 215/75 BFG KM2s.. makes a MASSIVE difference.

Or some Hankook M/T MT03 in 215/75/15. You will get a bit of rubbing though off road if you don't go for a 40mm lift or so as well, so get them both at once. If you go 50mm or higher "apparently" you will need adjustable Panhard rods and some offset castors to correct the suspension geometry, but someone here will be sure to correct me if I have been fed a load of BS regarding this.

[shakes]

drive it

[Ben_Sierra]

Drive it, figure out what you need.

You haven't even told us what terrain you drive so how can we recommend mods?

[bcgal0004]

get 2 inch lift thats what i got 1st

[lordviper556]

id say your best mod would be deff a good set of tyres. also think about what size you want so then you can plan if you need to get a lift for them.

[Ben_Sierra]

lordviper556 wrote:

id say your best mod would be deff a good set of tyres. also think about what size you want so then you can plan if you need to get a lift for them.

Maybe, but a set of muddies isn't gonna be of any use if you only drive on the beach. Road tyres will be great. Like I said, we need some more info to recommend mods.

[atari4x4]

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[steak_knife]

atari4x4 wrote:

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[Gwagensteve]

I pretty much agree with the sentiment of buying things as you need them S13RR4, but do you have any facts to support this statement?

S13RR4 wrote:

you keep lifting wheels in the air --> you need more travel, so longer springs (lift)

Suspension travel on a Jimny is a function of shock length, and I'm not convinced that there's much more travel than stock possible with stock shock mounts and without other widgetry like bumpstop spacing.

Not being picky, it's just that it's a bit misleading to imply supension lift adds travel. It's well documented that most suspension lift kits actually travel LESS than the stock suspension. This is due to the added spring rate required to maintain lift making it much harer for the axles to reach the bumpstop.

DSKEW3 - The first thing you need to do is join your local suzuki club. Then add diff breathers, recovery gear, maybe a UHF CB for club trips.

Then a quality compressor and tyre gauge/deflator.

Maybe a swap to sierra free wheeling hubs to remove the troublesome front vacuum engaged hubs.

I agree that 215/75/15 tyres are a good idea, with a tread pattern to suit your local terrain.

Then the #1 modification would have to be a rear diff lock.

Steve.

[alien]

Gwagensteve wrote:

DSKEW3 - The first thing you need to do is join your local suzuki club. Then add diff breathers, recovery gear, maybe a UHF CB for club trips.

Then a quality compressor and tyre gauge/deflator.

Maybe a swap to sierra free wheeling hubs to remove the troublesome front vacuum engaged hubs.

Steve.

Very good thinking steve... i retract my earlier advice in favour of this.

[Rockhopper]

Due to past experiences with my previous cars, I also agree with Steve, which is why I finally decided I'll be going 40mm OME's instead of the more popular 60 and 80mm tough dog kits. I've done all the smaller stuff on mine first due to the dollar factor and comfort , eg decent radio, driving lights, cb , roof basket and exhaust, but if money wasn't an issue then onboard air and a rear locker would've been my first mod

[S13RR4]

Gwagensteve wrote:

I pretty much agree with the sentiment of buying things as you need them S13RR4, but do you have any facts to support this statement?

S13RR4 wrote:

you keep lifting wheels in the air --> you need more travel, so longer springs (lift)

Suspension travel on a Jimny is a function of shock length, and I'm not convinced that there's much more travel than stock possible with stock shock mounts and without other widgetry like bumpstop spacing.

Not being picky, it's just that it's a bit misleading to imply supension lift adds travel. It's well documented that most suspension lift kits actually travel LESS than the stock suspension. This is due to the added spring rate required to maintain lift making it much harer for the axles to reach the bumpstop.

DSKEW3 - The first thing you need to do is join your local suzuki club. Then add diff breathers, recovery gear, maybe a UHF CB for club trips.

Then a quality compressor and tyre gauge/deflator.

Maybe a swap to sierra free wheeling hubs to remove the troublesome front vacuum engaged hubs.

I agree that 215/75/15 tyres are a good idea, with a tread pattern to suit your local terrain.

Then the #1 modification would have to be a rear diff lock.

Steve.

That was based on my only experience with leaf sprung sierra. Longer Springs means more travel. (there is an upper limit I know and it depends on hanger distances and shackle angles but that's a basic summary)

It was also my belief that the only purpose for spring lift was to get longer springs, ie the lift isn't the aim, its just a byproduct of having longer springs in there.

The longer springs would then allow for longer wheel travel, of course longer shocks would also be necessary but I put that under 'assumed knowledge' when I whipped up my previous post

You make a brilliant point about breathes, recovery gear, and recovery points and radios being a priority first mod though.

[squibby]

Where do I get some breathers from? And what do they do... (sorry jimny noob here)

[S13RR4]

squibby wrote:

Where do I get some breathers from? And what do they do... (sorry jimny noob here)

on the top of your diffs, gear box and transfer case there are little breather holes.

You may know that when a liquid (diff oil etc) heats, it expands, thus the breather allows air to be released to reduce pressure in the diff.

When you go into water puddles, river crossings and other times when the diff (or G BOX or T Case) is submerge, the oil inside will rapidly cool, creating negative pressure (or a pressure gradient from the outside to the in side) and thus the breather will allow air back into the diff.

If your diff is fully submerged and there is no air, but rather water above your breather, water will get sucked into your diff. and water in your diffs is bad as it doesn't have the lubricating properties of the oil in there. let alone if your in muddy water...

To prevent this people install extended breathers on their diffs, G boxes and T cases. This usually involves some fuel hose (or garden hose if your dodgy) that clamps over the breather and runs either into the engine bay or sometimes the top (inside) of your snorkel if you want them really high). Thus raising the height that your diff sucks air from when submerged.

Note most people place one way oil filters on the other end of the fuel hose to stop any water or moisture getting sucked back in.

Have a look in, my build thread for some pictures.

Also see 'Want33s" ( although I'm not sure which one)
or 'Rusho's' for good examples

[lordviper556]

Ben_Sierra wrote:

lordviper556 wrote:

id say your best mod would be deff a good set of tyres. also think about what size you want so then you can plan if you need to get a lift for them.

Maybe, but a set of muddies isn't gonna be of any use if you only drive on the beach. Road tyres will be great. Like I said, we need some more info to recommend mods.

i said good tyres not muddies

i was meaning for him to get a set of good tyres to suite his driving. but yes you are right if he dose only beach work he may as well leave it stando.

[DSKEW3]

thanks every 1 for your comments it has really helped. i was think of getting some 15X8 rims and some 215/75r15 bfg km2 muddies but its gunna cost me just under 1200 bucks. this is wats already on my car

- king springs dunno about the specs already on the car wen i got it
- shocks but dunno wat brand all i now they r yellow
- tjm snorkle
- uniden uhf/cb


also getting a full exhaust system exstractors, high flow cat and custom pipe work for 900 bucks should be sweet. WEN I GET THE MONEY TO DO IT THO LOL

[squibby]

DSKEW3 wrote:

...i was think of getting some 15X8 rims and some 215/75r15 bfg km2 muddies but its gunna cost me just under 1200 bucks...also getting a full exhaust system exstractors, high flow cat and custom pipe work for 900 bucks should be sweet...WEN I GET THE MONEY TO DO IT THO LOL

If money is a problem don't bother wasting it on BFG's. They are good, but this is a jimny, its a budget car, get some budget tyres. Plenty of good ones out there. Get some Kumho KL71 if you want really agressive good looking tyre, or get some hankook M/T RT03 if you want a cheap alternative of the BFG.

These are budget tyres, not neccesarily rubbish. BFG's are over priced. take it from someone who has used both kinds of tyres, the most expensive and some of the cheapest. My BFG's rocked but they wore out quickly, and my Hankooks are so similar to drive that I can't even tell the difference in grip from the BFG's

[tanshi]

squibby wrote:

DSKEW3 wrote:

...i was think of getting some 15X8 rims and some 215/75r15 bfg km2 muddies but its gunna cost me just under 1200 bucks...also getting a full exhaust system exstractors, high flow cat and custom pipe work for 900 bucks should be sweet...WEN I GET THE MONEY TO DO IT THO LOL

If money is a problem don't bother wasting it on BFG's. They are good, but this is a jimny, its a budget car, get some budget tyres. Plenty of good ones out there. Get some Kumho KL71 if you want really agressive good looking tyre, or get some hankook M/T RT03 if you want a cheap alternative of the BFG.

These are budget tyres, not neccesarily rubbish. BFG's are over priced. take it from someone who has used both kinds of tyres, the most expensive and some of the cheapest. My BFG's rocked but they wore out quickly, and my Hankooks are so similar to drive that I can't even tell the difference in grip from the BFG's

I would pit my BFGs against any other tire you could name. Anyday!.

I however didnt pay australian prices for them so...

[DSKEW3]

i was only looking at them cause i work at a tyre place so i can them cheaper but ill see wat else i can find. but all of that will have to wait now cause i just was cleaning out my jimmy and pulled out the seats and on each side i broke off a mount for the seat and the wind screen has to get re-fitted so thats where the money has to go for now AAAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SuziBlu]

Tanshi, mate, that is a pretty big call.

The terrain is the decider, no such thing as an all rounder, that excels everywhere.

The tyres that I have for my sand rig, I love, most excellent, but, i am told they totally suk in mud, even tho they are a mud tyre.

[tanshi]

i have driven on alot of tires.

and i stand by the statement.

simex Ets we only slightly better in deep slop. as were silverstones. but were far far worse on anything else.

they are by far the best tyre i have driven on on wet and dry rocks, wet and dry gravel. and pretty much any thing else i have driven. including sand.

That being said I wouldnt pay aussie prices for them. But then i wouldnt pay Aussie prices for anything that i can ship over my self. thats just the way i do it.

[vl2dy4]

I would say probably get some new seats?

[SuziBlu]

tanshi wrote:

i have driven on alot of tires.

and i stand by the statement.

simex Ets we only slightly better in deep slop. as were silverstones. but were far far worse on anything else.

they are by far the best tyre i have driven on on wet and dry rocks, wet and dry gravel. and pretty much any thing else i have driven. including sand.

That being said I wouldnt pay aussie prices for them. But then i wouldnt pay Aussie prices for anything that i can ship over my self. thats just the way i do it.

What are they, BFG ?? got a link so I can have a squiz.

In sand, I would put claws far ahead of anything, maybe mudzillas are the exception.

[tanshi]

I have driven on federal coragias, firestone MT, symex ET, Sime MT, BFG AT and KM2, silverstone ET, Kumho AT. As far as sand goes, the less tread the better is what i have found.