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| Author: | Polar_Bear [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
After some advice from the auszookers oracle, Today I cracked open a front diff ive recently bought out of a comp car, and found 1 tooth on the ring gear is chipped. I cant find the chipped piece in the housing, pinion seems to be in good condition, all feels good. How do ya reckon it will hold up? is it likely to chew out the pinion, and in turn, the ring gear? 
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| Author: | Bucket [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Throw it out before it explodes and fucks more up |
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| Author: | Rusho [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Bucket wrote: Throw it out before it explodes and fucks more up
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| Author: | 11_evl [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
for the risk of potentialy busting and taking out your locker i wouldnt risk it... altho if it was an open center i recon if you were an easy driver it would last. ps Rusho. saw your car yesterday at glasshouse, very neat, good job |
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| Author: | Rusho [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
11_evl wrote: for the risk of potentialy busting and taking out your locker i wouldnt risk it...
altho if it was an open center i recon if you were an easy driver it would last. ps Rusho. saw your car yesterday at glasshouse, very neat, good job Thanks Mr.Evl Was that you on the Moto's?? Looked familiar but couldn't put a name to the face 
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| Author: | Mugwui [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
I'm currently having my locker fixed from a busted axle and pinion and it's costing me $1000. You don't want to go there! X3, bin it! |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Ask Royce....... 
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| Author: | 3cyl [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Is this a trick question? Nah, bin it, put the locker in a good diff. |
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| Author: | Teracis [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 9:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Surely shouldn't be that hard to change only the ring gear? Just get another one! |
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| Author: | 3cyl [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Teracis wrote: Surely shouldn't be that hard to change only the ring gear? Just get another one!
Problem is they're a pair (crownwheel and pinion). Pinion height is the hard part in diff setup, but you could replace both. If you change the crownwheel only it's likely to get pretty musical. Cheap and easiest to put the locker in another centre. |
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| Author: | Polar_Bear [ Sat Apr 23, 2011 11:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Thanks lads, was pretty much what I was expecting. It is a vitata front steel housing, so swapping it to another diff ain't gonna happen
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| Author: | Built4thrashing [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
what ratio do you need to replace it. while you have it out its easy to swap the ring and pinion gears over. |
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| Author: | Mugwui [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! |
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| Author: | Joe [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped!
What does that mean? 
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Joe wrote: Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! What does that mean? Quote: Lapping Process
Goodwill Engineering To ensure smooth and quiet noise free functioning, the Gears and Pinions are lapped after hardening. Lapping is accomplished by running mating pairs together in a Gleason Hypoid lapping machine and then feeding a liquid abrasive compound under pressure into the gear pair. The compound removes small amounts of metal as the gears rotate, thus refining the tooth surface and achieving desired contact pattern. |
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| Author: | Joe [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
boostedbrick wrote: Joe wrote: Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! What does that mean? Quote: Lapping Process Goodwill Engineering To ensure smooth and quiet noise free functioning, the Gears and Pinions are lapped after hardening. Lapping is accomplished by running mating pairs together in a Gleason Hypoid lapping machine and then feeding a liquid abrasive compound under pressure into the gear pair. The compound removes small amounts of metal as the gears rotate, thus refining the tooth surface and achieving desired contact pattern. Sounds pricey 
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Joe wrote: boostedbrick wrote: Joe wrote: Mugwui wrote: If you have another crownwheel you could get them lapped! What does that mean? Quote: Lapping Process Goodwill Engineering To ensure smooth and quiet noise free functioning, the Gears and Pinions are lapped after hardening. Lapping is accomplished by running mating pairs together in a Gleason Hypoid lapping machine and then feeding a liquid abrasive compound under pressure into the gear pair. The compound removes small amounts of metal as the gears rotate, thus refining the tooth surface and achieving desired contact pattern. Sounds pricey cheaper than a missing tooth or miss matched gear's... |
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| Author: | Mugwui [ Sun Apr 24, 2011 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
I'll be able to tell you at the end of the week when I get the itemised bill as lapping will be part of my rebuild. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
I had hotline 40 autoparts send me a sms the other day looking for a 5.12 front, I pushed past the collection of rear diffs & GV steel housings... and found nothing, well I found a couple but not sure what they are. I know one is a 4.6 & the other one I will have to check. |
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| Author: | ZUKOFHZRD [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
its a crown wheel not a ring gear, ring gear is loctaed on your flywheel, get rid of it replace it with the same ratio that is in the other diff, i thort these gear sets were cheep enuf new |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
R&P = ring & pinion & they're both gears, so ring gear works for me... it is also a crown wheel & pinion... you say tomato, i say tomato. i'd hate to price a new one from suzuki, but they do come up forsale 2nd hand quite often.
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Something about that break makes me think that diff wasn't set up properly. It looks like the contact patch was WAY out. Sierra or vitara R&P's aren't hard to find unless they are 4.8 or 4.3. 5.12's are everywhere. Just replace both R&P Steve. |
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| Author: | Mugwui [ Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: How bad is a chipped tooth on a ring gear? |
Mugwui wrote: I'll be able to tell you at the end of the week when I get the itemised bill as lapping will be part of my rebuild.
Cant tell you the price as the bill is itemised, but it only has a total price. |
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