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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:05 pm |
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all good, found what i was looking for. If anyone was interested the paint you need in australia is International Brightside paint. It is a marine grade paint and can be found at BCF and other marine stores.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Wow that is too much work, I nearly fell asleep watching the 3 days to paint one small tank. Seriously if you want to do that much painting, sanding and buffing why not just use an acrilic laquer that dries is seconds
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:21 pm |
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2stroker wrote: Wow that is too much work, I nearly fell asleep watching the 3 days to paint one small tank. Seriously if you want to do that much painting, sanding and buffing why not just use an acrilic laquer that dries is seconds
lol they also made these things called spray guns in the last 50 years
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:39 pm |
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 @ all the youtube clips of yanks painting cars with rollers........ 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9712 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Che_guitar....
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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want33s wrote: :rofl: @ all the youtube clips of yanks painting cars with rollers........ 
I've seen some brilliant roller jobs though, haha.. Not that id ever do it
I just use rattlecan for the Zook =P
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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From the results that this paint has got in that thread it gives a lot better results than rattlecan's do. I don't have a booth for spraying and this method makes a lot less mess than spraying techniques. It is also more begginer friendly. I wasn't intending on doing it to a zook but depending on the outcome I might give it a go.
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Jccck
Joined: Sun Apr 11, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 706
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Zook_Fan wrote: From the results that this paint has got in that thread it gives a lot better results than rattlecan's do. I don't have a booth for spraying and this method makes a lot less mess than spraying techniques. It is also more begginer friendly. I wasn't intending on doing it to a zook but depending on the outcome I might give it a go.
A decent spraycan and a bit of skill and a rattlecan job can look amazing
I use the spraygun occasionally, but it's too much hassle for touchup and painting barwork on my Zook
Roller takes quite awhile too..
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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BlueSuzy wrote:  Che_guitar....
& after the 2,483,097 thread's on painting to.. 
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now I'm not so sure.....
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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i'm going to do it to the mini, its the exact finish I am after
do they do bmc shale green 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:18 am |
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no they don't have too many colours. They do have a green that you may be able to tint to close though, here is the colour list: http://www.yachtpaint.com/USA/general/c ... psides.asp
I'm thinking going with gloss black with steel grey stripes over the bonnet and cab with steel grey barwork for my sierra..
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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royce wrote: i'm going to do it to the mini, its the exact finish I am after do they do bmc shale green 
Early Austin Healeys were originally painted with a brush.
When I was about 9 I watched a guy at Mangrove Mountain near Gosford repaint his in black with a brush "because thats how the factory did it". This guy was a top class spraypainter and the Healey turned out beautifully..
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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Greetings from Hong Kong, auszookers. Seen a couple of sick jimny's i'll post once I get back home.
Glossy finish = no way. I repeat - nooo waaay it'll look good. One thing you'll notice about roller jobs is that the pics are all taken from 10 metres away... maybe wonder to yourself why that is.
My roller job came up pretty well, but I wouldn't recommend it if you're a person with limited patience or just looking to save a buck - you will not save money by doing it this way - and your fingers will dissappear having been scrubbed away by the sandpaper you use to get it looking good.
This approach worked for me as I had a 4 hr window of opportunity every sunday to get it done, so I could do section at a time, at my own pace. I got it done, but you'll go through more sandpaper and roller painting equipment that you can imagine getting it to a decent result. It's incredibly hard... well, maybe not hard, but time consuming and patience testing.
PS - resale value of a roller painted car is $0, unless you've done a somewhat decent job.
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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want33s wrote: royce wrote: i'm going to do it to the mini, its the exact finish I am after do they do bmc shale green  Early Austin Healeys were originally painted with a brush. When I was about 9 I watched a guy at Mangrove Mountain near Gosford repaint his in black with a brush "because thats how the factory did it". This guy was a top class spraypainter and the Healey turned out beautifully..
rolls royce were done by brush many years ago, but that doesnt mean its a good idea today
they were also painted in nitocellulose paint not enamel, acrylic or twopak.
It was very soft and got a great shine when buffed and hand polished.
the process was to brush many coats on sand flat and buff to a shine, oh and It only works on solid colors.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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it dries extremely hard when let to cure and will resist stone chips. resale value won't matter, the car is for competition use. with a decent amount of polishing it looks pretty damn good. this is plenty of shine as far as I am concerned (obviously half way through polishing panel) :

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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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Great stuff is the White Knight Rustpaint that you can buy from Bunnings. Its not the cheapest stuff in the world, but it comes in about ten or so different colours, and comes in either tins or rattlecans. I bought a can and used a paintbrush on mine, came out a treat, plus touchups are easy with the rattlecan.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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that's been polished that much he's burnt thru the edge.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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atari4x4 wrote: that's been polished that much he's burnt thru the edge.
I think that original paint colour is called 'Turd'
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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I remembered I hate sanding and wont be doing any of this 300 coat bullshit, strictly by the can, sand exsiting paint to a decent surface, 1 or 2 coats of undercoat max a day apart and 2 coats of colour (white roof on mini)
Then ill leave it a bit and polish it by hand and see what happens, if its any good ill do the rest of the car
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Well isnt this a shit idea  I forgot I have no patience for this messy ass shit, good thing ive got nothing better to do
A simple scuff of the existing paint turned into a 2 day marathon of sanding off all the old top coat and most of underneath back to metal in some spots cause there was some weird bubble shit going on that I had to sand out
Then there were a few dents in teh roof I had to sort out cause somebody had used it to support a building being built or something, I got them bashed out a lot better than I thought but the 42YO hoodlining hasnt taken it well so ill be getting a new one of them, which means new windscreen rubbers and windscreen cause its buggered anyway
Ive done a few coats of primer where it was bare metal and just done the first coat of undercoat with a foam roller, following the instructions to not thin it, the shit dont self level, now my roof looks like a house wall  maybe next coat ill use some thinners or just leave it and sand it flat later, doesnt take too long cause its only a small roof 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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benji
Joined: Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 266 Location: coffs harbour
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PJ.zook wrote: Great stuff is the White Knight Rustpaint that you can buy from Bunnings. Its not the cheapest stuff in the world, but it comes in about ten or so different colours, and comes in either tins or rattlecans. I bought a can and used a paintbrush on mine, came out a treat, plus touchups are easy with the rattlecan.
im pretty sure that the white knight is actually ppg if you read the back
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Che

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Joined: Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2401 Location: Perth
Vehicle: LPG 1.6 Sierra
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Damn... i'm hanging for the weather to clear so I can do the same to my bonnet.
It'll come up pretty well Royce, just lay a few more coats on then get busy with some very fine sandpaper to get it as flat as you want. If you roll lots of very very thin coats the texture is flatter and easier to level off if you need to. I reckon you might need to thin it down a fracco, it'll help keep the already rolled paint workable for longer too.
This pic is shows my roller job - two coats done in cool weather, was gonna fine sand it back but I kinda like the texture... it suits the car

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