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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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My mate has a Cigweld WeldSkill 170 Inverter arc Welder with tig in his shed that he has never used. I tryed using it on the weekend and failed. I have never used a tig before. Trying to weld just black steel.
Anyone help me on what settings, what goes to - and what goes to + ?
cheers
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 8:47 pm |
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(-) Negative is earth.
(+) Positive is the handpiece.
Set the regulator to about 10 litres per minute.
Sharpen the electrode to a point and have it just recessed in the nozzle..
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Moph

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Joined: Sat May 19, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 2535 Location: Perth
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Don't touch the electrode to the weld pool ... if you do, stop and re-sharpen the electrode. Push the weld pool rather than pulling it, and just dab the filler rod in every second or so. Make sure you actually are running a shielding gas ... my bet is that if he has never used it, he likely doesn't have a shielding gas bottle hooked up - you'll get nowhere without it.
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
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what they said and try and try and try and then spit the dummy go back in 2 hours and try some more untill you finally get it to look semi like a bead then feel good about yourself hahaha. its hard to get to start with like oxy welding only harder.
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xedent

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Joined: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 895 Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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 Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:57 am |
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I do gave gas hooked up, when I tried to use it on the weekend when I pushed the button nothing would happen ?
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matty87
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 794 Location: the wild west
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 Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:16 am |
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plugged in at the wall? you may need to scratch start it by scratching the tip on the surface to strike an ark similar to ark welding
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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jump on youtube, will help lots
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bails

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Joined: Tue Aug 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 131 Location: darwin
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and make sure the metal that you are welding is cleaned, the cleaner the metal is the eaiser and better it is to weld.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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bails wrote: and make sure the metal that you are welding is cleaned, the cleaner the metal is the eaiser and better it is to weld.
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I always linish the surface before TIGing. It really does help.
Also I have found that when TIGing aluminium, I get better results with a slightly dull electrode ( not sharpened to a point). MS and S/S both like a fine point.
On another note, what gas are you using?
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skelaaleks
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2010 8:31 am Posts: 237 Location: brissy
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make sure you metal is clean.
Its much easier to weld.
fatzook next time you weld alloy give everything a wipe down with thinners before welding. it helps!
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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personally I think unless you are welding aluminium alloys that tig is a waste of time and effort.
mild and stainless mig well and much faster
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Fatzook

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ajsr wrote: personally I think unless you are welding aluminium alloys that tig is a waste of time and effort. mild and stainless mig well and much faster
moly likes TIG 
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ajsr

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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 3712 Location: melb
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ok I'll give you moly but it migs ok too 
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86slowsierra

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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 724 Location: Melbourne
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xedent wrote: My mate has a Cigweld WeldSkill 170 Inverter arc Welder with tig in his shed that he has never used. I tryed using it on the weekend and failed. I have never used a tig before. Trying to weld just black steel.
Anyone help me on what settings, what goes to - and what goes to + ?
cheers yeah trying to learn as well want33s wrote: (-) Negative is earth. (+) Positive is the handpiece.
Set the regulator to about 10 litres per minute. Sharpen the electrode to a point and have it just recessed in the nozzle..
i thought that the Tungston was meant to stick out about 5 to 10 mm.
What sort of amps/volts/whatever woult you use for 3mm steel and sheet metal?
i was told 150 amps? for 3mm but that was crazy hot. i then tried 45 and that seemed to suck as well.
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Pubic

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Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1303
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3mm stainless should be fine at around 80-100 amps. depending on the weld prep etc. 1.2mm stainless with a outer corner weld with no penetration is done at around 25-30 amps with the torch pointing the heat to out side of the job to prevent any peno being blown through.
argon for gas and tungsten sharpened to a fine point with the tungsten sticking out around 5mm for a butt weld. 10mm for a fillet weld.
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