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Author:  redzook91 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 3:24 am ]
Post subject:  W/T and N/T Gearbox - what's the difference?

Picked up a gearbox the other day and I cant tell what it's out of, the only stamp I can find on it is a little circle with 2/11 in it :? . It's a 5 speed sierra box but is there a difference between W/T and N/T in this respect?

Cheers,
Red

Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:00 am ]
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Doubt it.

Author:  SuziBlu [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:01 am ]
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lump_a_charcoal wrote:
Doubt it.


Hmmm.

Author:  redzook91 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:04 am ]
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Doubt what? there being a difference?

Author:  SuziBlu [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:05 am ]
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lol im stumped at Lumpas answer too.

Author:  foolsp33d [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:20 am ]
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no difference in WT NT 5speeds.. bolt it in...

Author:  squirezook [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:24 am ]
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foolsp33d wrote:
no difference in WT NT 5speeds.. bolt it in...


X2 :wink:

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:36 am ]
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squirezook wrote:
foolsp33d wrote:
no difference in WT NT 5speeds.. bolt it in...


X2 :wink:


Switch's boy's, w/t has a couple of extra's for emission control's..

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:45 am ]
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Input shaft size and spline count, 19.1mm and 18 spline (WT) vs 22.4 and 20 (NT)

Author:  redzook91 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:42 am ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Input shaft size and spline count, 19.1mm and 18 spline (WT) vs 22.4 and 20 (NT)


It was your gearbox dude, you should know! :lol: I'll check that though...

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:54 am ]
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Came out of this

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Author:  redzook91 [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 5:56 am ]
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Hi-top drover = N/T isn't it? They're a 1.0 or a 1.3?

Author:  whincup [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:44 am ]
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a 1.0 is only a 4 speed... so its either WT or NT 1.3

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:56 am ]
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NT with 1.3

Author:  Bruce [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:41 am ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Came out of this

Image


That's Gibbon's old car. That had a 1.6 in it

Author:  want33s [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:02 am ]
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NT had less switches than WT.
NT also has different 5th gear ratio to WT.
Externally they are identical and will interchange...

Some years had different spline count on input shaft but I'm yet to discover one after wrecking almost 20 cars.

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:17 am ]
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want33s wrote:
NT had less switches than WT.
NT also has different 5th gear ratio to WT.
Externally they are identical and will interchange...

Some years had different spline count on input shaft but I'm yet to discover one after wrecking almost 20 cars.


By how much?? :?

I've yet to see different splines to.

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:19 am ]
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Just going off the Exedy website listing

Author:  want33s [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:33 am ]
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NT is slightly lower geared in 5th than WT but only by a fly shit.

5th WT is 0.795:1

I think 5th NT is 0.830:1

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:43 am ]
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want33s wrote:
NT is slightly lower geared in 5th than WT but only by a fly shit.

5th WT is 0.795:1

I think 5th NT is 0.830:1


Cheer's.. :P

Author:  303zuke [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:12 am ]
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All the brochures and manuals I have show the 5th gear ratio for ALL Leafy Sierras (and Drovers!) to be 0.793. 1st series Vitara and Coily have 0.864 5th, and these can be swapped into a Sierra box for a slightly better 5th with big tyres.

Author:  want33s [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:27 pm ]
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I got the 0.795 from a WT owners manual....

Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:32 pm ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Came out of this

Image


WHoa!! I haven't seen that thing for ages!! Is it still going?

Author:  Highway-Star [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:25 pm ]
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I was always under the impression that the 0.79:1 ratio was a NT thing, and the 0.83 was a WT onwards thing... :?
Thought they did it when they put the 3.7 diffs in to make highway cruising RPM comparable to the 3.9 diffed NT with the higher overdrive...

As a side note I've seen some very late leafies and coilys that don't have the little rubber timing bung that likes to go MIA :P

Author:  Bruce [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:45 pm ]
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Fatzook wrote:
ScrawnC wrote:
Came out of this

Image


WHoa!! I haven't seen that thing for ages!! Is it still going?

No mate he parted it out about 2 years ago. I got a heap of stuff out of it.

Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Jul 03, 2010 11:21 pm ]
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Bruce wrote:
No mate he parted it out about 2 years ago. I got a heap of stuff out of it.


let me guess, its in your shed behind royces' shit :D

Author:  Bruce [ Sun Jul 04, 2010 12:50 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:
Bruce wrote:
No mate he parted it out about 2 years ago. I got a heap of stuff out of it.


let me guess, its in your shed behind royces' shit :D


Well sort of. Yep got Royce's crap in my shed still but I also have a 85 Drover/Zook and I used some parts on that. :wink:

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