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| Author: | appsie [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | cromos and lockrite?front |
hey all just a quick question regarding the deal at locktup at the moment on cromo fronts with lockrite. i am considering getting these for my zuk,have never broken anything but just wanna improve it a bit and a front locker cant hurt to much. I have g16b and vit PS but am just wondering what others with front lockrites think of them??ive only ever driven welded front(in a mates and hated it) or airlocked front in my hilux which doesnt count any help would be great.i know arb would be better but i wont spend that much on the poor old zuk. |
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| Author: | PJ.zook [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
I am currently running that setup (g16b, no PS, lockrite 1510 in rear, 1530 in front with 26spline crmo shafts and cv's). I had never busted a cv before, but with the extra strain of the locker i thought it was worth it. The biggest difference ive noticed (other than the extra capability) is the obvious much heavier steering, and when locker doesnt disengage, it can have the turning circle of a crane truck. I notice when im driving at speed along muddy tracks especially, you do have to work the wheel a lot more as it causes zook to wander a lot more i guess maybe due to extra grip. I generally take it out of 4wd when i dont actually need it due to the hard steering, then when i see a difficult obsticle ahead i just slip it straight from 2wd to 4wd while still moving in a straight line so both shafts are moving the same speed (so it slips into 4wd smoothly with no crunching). |
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| Author: | appsie [ Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
thanks PJ for your reply.I am just a bit worried about taking it from quite a manoverable little car to a POS. id like to drive someones with the same setup but Tamworth zookers are a dying breed  Also it is just a case of swapping the front locrite carrier into my front centre as it replaces all my side gears etc?cheers
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| Author: | Red89 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
Power steer makes a heap of difference. I run a Falcon PS pump and Cruiser box and dont even notice mine is in there, presumably the Vit PS would be the same. |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
so you are only auto locked up front???thanks for the reply ill definately be looking into this. My vit power steer seems to be in good nic and working fine,hopefully the locker wouldnt hurt it too much |
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| Author: | Red89 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
Nah Lockright front, Detroit rear. Used to be Lockright rear as well, changed to the Detroit because it came with 5.12 Vit gears. Would happily go either again, however mine isnt road driven. |
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| Author: | dominator [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
i have put a lockrite in the front of mine. went so much harder with front lock as well as welded rear. But it also made a huge differance to steering, does not like to turn with the front locker in. i am looking at getting twin sticks. I have vit PS too and it is still fine to turn, i didnt really notice a change. i dont know if you have installed a lockrite but you dont replace the carrier. you use the same carrier and just replace the sun gears. do you have a 4 pinion carrier? |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
dominator wrote: But it also made a huge differance to steering, does not like to turn with the front locker in dominator wrote: I have vit PS too and it is still fine to turn, i didnt really notice a change.
 which one?
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
yeah sorry man dunno what i was on about with the hole carrier thing.No i havent ever fitted one nor have i got a 4 pin carrier.just a standard 2 pin front.Do they do locrites for these??? Yeah i am worried about mine with steering but dont see myself going over 31s whereas your truck has been on 33s and now 34s.When aeren owned it he ran welded front  and always broke it lol.
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
i have noticed you been back on here picking at quite a few people lately zook-fan  but i did get confused there too
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
I am interested in what he says, I have been looking at the same combo for mine in the near future and he contradicted himself within the same post.. for the others well I have been bored
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| Author: | Red89 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
appsie wrote: yeah sorry man dunno what i was on about with the hole carrier thing.No i havent ever fitted one nor have i got a 4 pin carrier.just a standard 2 pin front.Do they do locrites for these???
Mines in a 2 pin front, it is exactly the same locker just uses less parts. |
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| Author: | shep [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
i have a 1510 lockright in my front(wt 2 pin) with standerd cvs and axles. it turns well and i have only broken 1 cv being stupid. |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
thanks shep n red.Whats the 1510? |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
appsie wrote: thanks shep n red.Whats the 1510?
Part no. I think.. |
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| Author: | dominator [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
Zook_Fan wrote: dominator wrote: But it also made a huge differance to steering, does not like to turn with the front locker in dominator wrote: I have vit PS too and it is still fine to turn, i didnt really notice a change. which one?sorry i ment the turning circle is shit with the locker but the steering did not get heavier. as far as i knew you needed the 4 pinion carrier but it sounds like you dont. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
ah right that makes sense thank you. |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
yours had the 4 pin carrier cos of the NT centres i guess. Thanks once again,if the steering isnt any or much heavier even ill give it a go.If the circles worse ill have to live with it,still cant be any worse than my hilux,especially if i leave front air locker in.Good luck getting it to do anything lol |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
just been on locktup....so 1510 is without couplers and standard front 22 etc 1530 is the one id need for running the cro mos and 26.??? |
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| Author: | Red89 [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
Yes 1510 will fit front or rear as it reuses the stock side gears. 1530 comes with 26 spline side couplers, so must go in the rear or in the front with the cromo's. The combo pack is only being advertised with the 1530 anyway 
http://locktup4x4.com.au/suzuki-sierra- ... r-269.html |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
yeah cheers again the combo aint bad at all.Gonna give it a go i think.soon to be twin locked eh
so that one in the link is ok with 2 pin??? |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
so is anyone game to get the spartan auto locker? |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
what locker is that??? |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
Red89 wrote: Yes 1510 will fit front or rear as it reuses the stock side gears. 1530 comes with 26 spline side couplers, so must go in the rear or in the front with the cromo's.
The combo pack is only being advertised with the 1530 anyway http://locktup4x4.com.au/suzuki-sierra- ... r-269.html that is an awesome combo. its about the same in US with lowrange and you get free postage |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
appsie wrote: what locker is that???
this one: http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... uzsam.html bit cheaper than the lockrite |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
what would it work out with freight and converted.i have used lowrange in the past and are definately great but think its probably time to try support locktup for doing a good thing over here. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
yeah well with that pack it is hard to go past. i was thinking for the rear. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
you cannot put them straight in the front. they use the stock side gears and carrier, so you would need a set of 26 spline side gears and a 4 pin carrier to use it with the chromo axles |
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| Author: | appsie [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
yeah yeah got that bit.if i came across another carrier to use for the rear id probably try one.Welded rear atm but think id just end up with a spool i pretty much daily my zuk these days and the locked rear doesnt bother me too much |
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| Author: | matfan [ Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: cromos and lockrite?front |
I've got the 2 pin lockrite in the front of my sierra and it's friggin awesome when you need a locker.... friggin heavy steering when you don't. Never snapped anything though... maybe i'm not trying hard enough |
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