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Author:  v.w.dave [ Wed Apr 21, 2010 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  adding up to 25cm Chassis
OK so I am wanting to do some radicle upgrades. I have about 18inches off a old w/t chassis and I am wanting to cut my chassis off just in front of the steering box and add on the other part. After cutting and welding it will add between 20 and 25cm to the front of the frame. My plans are to run rear 2" lift Hilux springs takeing out 3 of the leafs. All up it will move my front axil 15 to 18cm forward.
I know it has been done before but I want to know if anyone has every done it and had it enganeered?
I am planning on making my sierra trailer queen in the future but I still need it to drive on road for the short term.
If any of you have done this enganeered or not do you have any pics?
I know I am most likely going to have to do some trimming and beating around the head lights. I know brake lines are moving and drive shaft is going to be needing some attention. what else will need doing? I am SPOA so i have plenty of room for the oil sump. I know hilux springs are 10mm wider. Anything else???
ones I get it all ready to do I will start a build thread.
Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:32 am ]
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Research fisch plates, maybe talk to hot rodders to see how they chop/extend their chassies.

Talk to Timmay too, he has done it I think.
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:42 am ]
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I have a guy on my tool rout i talked totoday, he builds race /drag cars and he said it is easy to do but even easier to fuck up. He had no idea about legalitys of it though. I already talked to timmay. I tink I need to offer gifts of shinny zooki parts for him to come help me out.... :)
He doesn't have the right welder at home to help me out. I need either a goooood stik with high temp sticks or a good gas MIG.
My partners Brother is a Boiler maker and can weld anything but he cant bring home a welder to do it. sooo yahh
I will look into the fisch thing
Author:  lump_a_charcoal [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:48 am ]
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v.w.dave wrote:
a goooood stik with high temp sticks or a good gas MIG.


I has both!
Author:  31zook [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:49 am ]
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hey dave, i've got a shed of 3 phase welders, i can't do it till i finish NIK's truck then coil another, but if you want it done by the time i've finished then pm me ;)
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:56 am ]
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hmmmm I will most probably take you up on that. Honestly looking at it and knowing te work that is needing to go into it I can see atleast one full day of work. But that is if ALLLLL the parts are at hand. So realistly 2 days a week apart. one day to get it all on thhere and set up then a week of ordering other stuff then a day of final building.

But thanks man when do you thing you will have a free day?
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:08 am ]
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If you were to get it ready and tack it all with a stick, much easier to just weld with mig and quicker for whoever is welding it.

Man i would love a mig, but gas hire is an arse ripper!

Talk to lumpapoo, he has both :)
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:23 am ]
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Yahh see I we have a cheap stik here and I would do that, set it all up and tac it but If I was to do that I would have to get the welder to come to me to finish it. Where ever I start it I will have to finish the job. hmmm we will see. Mabey I will hmmm hang on. I could to that I will just leave the springs in place till I get the it welded on correctly.... Timmy you may take it slow but you fairly bright young spark :)
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:26 am ]
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hahahah so lets say I do set it all up tac it on and drive to 31zooks... hahaha what exactly do I tell the cop that pulls me over hahahah
Author:  ball [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:58 am ]
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v.w.dave wrote:
hahahah so lets say I do set it all up tac it on and drive to 31zooks... hahaha what exactly do I tell the cop that pulls me over hahahah


Please be gentle officer, I'm stupid
Author:  want33s [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:04 am ]
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What is 25cm inches??????????
"Chassis" in Australia Dave... Houses have frames.
Author:  ball [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:10 am ]
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want33s wrote:
What is 25cm inches??????????
"Chassis" in Australia Dave... Houses have frames.


So do pictures :wink:
Author:  shep [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:12 am ]
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Author:  benji [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:34 am ]
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cops ??? id say it would more than likely be a coroners case
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 2:43 am ]
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Just ruf and play with rears imo.

My next setup from ruf and rolla's is coils! Im so over leafs...
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:16 am ]
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want33s wrote:
What is 25cm inches??????????
"Chassis" in Australia Dave... Houses have frames.


I started to say 10 inches but corrected my self to say 25cm,
ANd sorry for my grammer/spelling remember I had to lurn to read and write all over again 5yrs ago.

Thanks for your helpfull input shep and ball you never let me down. :)
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:28 am ]
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BlueSuzy wrote:
Just ruf and play with rears imo.

My next setup from ruf and rolla's is coils! Im so over leafs...


I already have a great RUF set up with pleny of flex. I am just wanting to move the diff further forward to get te engine weight behind the diff not over it.

As for the rear. I plan on doing the same thing once the front is done.
Author:  banga [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:41 am ]
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are you a dress maker by any chance cause dress makers use cm's every one else uses mm :wink:
Author:  zookprojectfnq [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:32 am ]
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Hey your a snap on dealer. Just tell snap on you need a mig to demo
Author:  want33s [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:41 pm ]
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Adding 250mm IN FRONT of the steering box seems like a LOT.
If I were going to extend the chassis in order to fit longer springs AND to move the diff forward I'd add the section just behind the steering box to move the whole lot forward.
If you don't move the steering box forward you'll run into all sorts of steering dramas.
Author:  shep [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:23 pm ]
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want33s wrote:
Adding 250mm IN FRONT of the steering box seems like a LOT.
If I were going to extend the chassis in order to fit longer springs AND to move the diff forward I'd add the section just behind the steering box to move the whole lot forward.
If you don't move the steering box forward you'll run into all sorts of steering dramas.


ssshhhhh :lol:
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:31 pm ]
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banga wrote:
are you a dress maker by any chance cause dress makers use cm's every one else uses mm :wink:



Off subject: Moved my nan into a home. I tried measuring curtains the other day for my Nan. Her friend insisted i use cm, "who measures in mm she goes" I was just about ready to stick her cm up her arse freaking pita woman. Try dealing with her while moving furniture! :evil: :roll:

My rant for this month :lol:

Dave, your going to run into many drama's.

Steering
Driveshaft
Body mounts
Tyre clearance
Shock mounts
Less approach angle
Engineering drama's/ If unengineered, its going to stick out like dog balls.
Author:  Pubic [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:57 pm ]
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I extended my chassis by welding 100mm x 50mm RHS straight off the end of the existing chassis.

the RT104 carona springs that i picked up fit pretty much perfectly and shift the diff forward 200mm. the springs are 50mm wide too.

to strengthen the joints i was going to fold a 5mm plate down 3 sides to make it fit inside the extended chassis section and cut out the round tube, the raw edge of the folded section would the be welded to the inside of the chassis.

the benefit of this is that you can then bolt a whinch to the plate in future.

extending the chassis this way keep all of your body mounts in the same position.

done right, i think it could be engineered.

once i did this my 35's cleared the rear section of the front uinner guard by approx 50mm.
Author:  Pubic [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:59 pm ]
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http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... &start=180
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:21 pm ]
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shep wrote:
want33s wrote:
Adding 250mm IN FRONT of the steering box seems like a LOT.
If I were going to extend the chassis in order to fit longer springs AND to move the diff forward I'd add the section just behind the steering box to move the whole lot forward.
If you don't move the steering box forward you'll run into all sorts of steering dramas.


ssshhhhh :lol:


the cut i am putting on has all the brake line holders steering box and everything still on it smart asses. So that is taken care of. Basicly I cut the old chassis just in front of the bump stops. I could get away with only adding 1500mm. But we will see.
Author:  BlueSuzy [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:40 pm ]
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150mm?
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:14 pm ]
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yahh sorry I need to stop posting off my PDA.
Author:  v.w.dave [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:16 pm ]
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Pubic wrote:
http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=1808&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=180


THANK YOU this is exactly what I was looking for. WHat you have done is what I want to do but useing the cut off I have.

Thank you.
Author:  want33s [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:10 pm ]
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Smart asses..... :roll:
Author:  Damo [ Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:25 pm ]
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want33s wrote:
Smart asses..... :roll:


it's better than being a dumb ass :P
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