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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 10:42 am |
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hey all just a quick question regarding the deal at locktup at the moment on cromo fronts with lockrite.
i am considering getting these for my zuk,have never broken anything but just wanna improve it a bit and a front locker cant hurt to much.
I have g16b and vit PS but am just wondering what others with front lockrites think of them??ive only ever driven welded front(in a mates and hated it) or airlocked front in my hilux which doesnt count
any help would be great.i know arb would be better but i wont spend that much on the poor old zuk.
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PJ.zook

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Joined: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 845 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:18 am |
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I am currently running that setup (g16b, no PS, lockrite 1510 in rear, 1530 in front with 26spline crmo shafts and cv's). I had never busted a cv before, but with the extra strain of the locker i thought it was worth it.
The biggest difference ive noticed (other than the extra capability) is the obvious much heavier steering, and when locker doesnt disengage, it can have the turning circle of a crane truck.
I notice when im driving at speed along muddy tracks especially, you do have to work the wheel a lot more as it causes zook to wander a lot more i guess maybe due to extra grip. I generally take it out of 4wd when i dont actually need it due to the hard steering, then when i see a difficult obsticle ahead i just slip it straight from 2wd to 4wd while still moving in a straight line so both shafts are moving the same speed (so it slips into 4wd smoothly with no crunching).
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 11:32 am |
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thanks PJ for your reply.I am just a bit worried about taking it from quite a manoverable little car to a POS.
id like to drive someones with the same setup but Tamworth zookers are a dying breed  Also it is just a case of swapping the front locrite carrier into my front centre as it replaces all my side gears etc?cheers
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:59 am |
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Power steer makes a heap of difference. I run a Falcon PS pump and Cruiser box and dont even notice mine is in there, presumably the Vit PS would be the same.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:06 am |
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so you are only auto locked up front???thanks for the reply ill definately be looking into this.
My vit power steer seems to be in good nic and working fine,hopefully the locker wouldnt hurt it too much
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:12 am |
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Nah Lockright front, Detroit rear. Used to be Lockright rear as well, changed to the Detroit because it came with 5.12 Vit gears. Would happily go either again, however mine isnt road driven.
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dominator
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 97 Location: Noosa QLD
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:42 am |
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i have put a lockrite in the front of mine. went so much harder with front lock as well as welded rear. But it also made a huge differance to steering, does not like to turn with the front locker in. i am looking at getting twin sticks. I have vit PS too and it is still fine to turn, i didnt really notice a change. i dont know if you have installed a lockrite but you dont replace the carrier. you use the same carrier and just replace the sun gears. do you have a 4 pinion carrier?
_________________ Sierra, Ute Chop, Tube Tray, 1.6 EFI, locked F&R,
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:30 am |
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dominator wrote: But it also made a huge differance to steering, does not like to turn with the front locker in dominator wrote: I have vit PS too and it is still fine to turn, i didnt really notice a change.
 which one?
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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yeah sorry man dunno what i was on about with the hole carrier thing.No i havent ever fitted one nor have i got a 4 pin carrier.just a standard 2 pin front.Do they do locrites for these???
Yeah i am worried about mine with steering but dont see myself going over 31s whereas your truck has been on 33s and now 34s.When aeren owned it he ran welded front  and always broke it lol.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:34 am |
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i have noticed you been back on here picking at quite a few people lately zook-fan  but i did get confused there too
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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I am interested in what he says, I have been looking at the same combo for mine in the near future and he contradicted himself within the same post.. for the others well I have been bored 
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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appsie wrote: yeah sorry man dunno what i was on about with the hole carrier thing.No i havent ever fitted one nor have i got a 4 pin carrier.just a standard 2 pin front.Do they do locrites for these???
Mines in a 2 pin front, it is exactly the same locker just uses less parts.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:45 am |
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i have a 1510 lockright in my front(wt 2 pin) with standerd cvs and axles. it turns well
and i have only broken 1 cv being stupid.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:51 am |
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thanks shep n red.Whats the 1510?
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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appsie wrote: thanks shep n red.Whats the 1510?
Part no. I think..
_________________ I used to be indecisive,
now I'm not so sure.....
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dominator
Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 97 Location: Noosa QLD
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Zook_Fan wrote: dominator wrote: But it also made a huge differance to steering, does not like to turn with the front locker in dominator wrote: I have vit PS too and it is still fine to turn, i didnt really notice a change.  which one?
sorry i ment the turning circle is shit with the locker but the steering did not get heavier.
as far as i knew you needed the 4 pinion carrier but it sounds like you dont.
_________________ Sierra, Ute Chop, Tube Tray, 1.6 EFI, locked F&R,
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01 am |
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ah right that makes sense thank you.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:01 am |
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yours had the 4 pin carrier cos of the NT centres i guess.
Thanks once again,if the steering isnt any or much heavier even ill give it a go.If the circles worse ill have to live with it,still cant be any worse than my hilux,especially if i leave front air locker in.Good luck getting it to do anything lol
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:06 am |
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just been on locktup....so 1510 is without couplers and standard front 22 etc
1530 is the one id need for running the cro mos and 26.???
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:28 am |
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Yes 1510 will fit front or rear as it reuses the stock side gears. 1530 comes with 26 spline side couplers, so must go in the rear or in the front with the cromo's.
The combo pack is only being advertised with the 1530 anyway
http://locktup4x4.com.au/suzuki-sierra- ... r-269.html
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:39 am |
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yeah cheers again  the combo aint bad at all.Gonna give it a go i think.soon to be twin locked eh
so that one in the link is ok with 2 pin???
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:50 am |
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so is anyone game to get the spartan auto locker?
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:52 am |
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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Red89 wrote: Yes 1510 will fit front or rear as it reuses the stock side gears. 1530 comes with 26 spline side couplers, so must go in the rear or in the front with the cromo's. The combo pack is only being advertised with the 1530 anyway http://locktup4x4.com.au/suzuki-sierra- ... r-269.html
that is an awesome combo. its about the same in US with lowrange and you get free postage
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:05 am |
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what would it work out with freight and converted.i have used lowrange in the past and are definately great but think its probably time to try support locktup for doing a good thing over here.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:07 am |
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yeah well with that pack it is hard to go past. i was thinking for the rear.
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:08 am |
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you cannot put them straight in the front. they use the stock side gears and carrier, so you would need a set of 26 spline side gears and a 4 pin carrier to use it with the chromo axles
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:10 am |
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yeah yeah got that bit.if i came across another carrier to use for the rear id probably try one.Welded rear atm but think id just end up with a spool
i pretty much daily my zuk these days and the locked rear doesnt bother me too much
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matfan

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Joined: Sat May 29, 2010 4:27 pm Posts: 935 Location: Paraguay
Vehicle: WT Tinny, NT lwb, 1L lwb
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 Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 11:43 am |
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I've got the 2 pin lockrite in the front of my sierra and it's friggin awesome when you need a locker.... friggin heavy steering when you don't.
Never snapped anything though... maybe i'm not trying hard enough
_________________ JrZook - Mine only hangs 2.5".
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