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Lonestar
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 pm Posts: 11
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara
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 Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 8:22 am |
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Hoping someone can clarify if my Vitara (G16B 16V EFI Jun 1992, ETD01V, JSAETD01V00114282) should have a working engine check light? It has the globe in the console but has never worked in the 5 years I have owned it. Also does any one know where I can find a wiring diagram, the one I have and the ones I keep finding online are different to my model.
Feedback appreciated
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2634 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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 Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 11:36 pm |
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IF your car has EFI, then it should have a check engine light that turns on when the ignition is switched on, and usually goes out after the engine is started. You can try the link below for manuals, I don't guarantee any of them will match your vehicle, having said that, you need to be aware that Suzuki was in the habit of releasing manuals for the base models, and then releasing supplements as models were updated. so you may require the base manual as well as one or more supplements. http://www.rhinoman.org/manuals/vitara/vit_manuals.html
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Erik
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:15 pm Posts: 56
Vehicle: 96 Coily Ragtop
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 Posted: Mon May 31, 2021 10:23 pm |
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For what a g16b's worth now I think the light's to make sure it's still there and nobody has stolen it
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12966 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2021 8:58 am |
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Yes, your car has a CEL.
As fordem describes, it should light on ignition "on" an go off shortly after the engine has started. (2 seconds or so)
The light is in the instrument cluster, not the console and it's quite possible the globe has simply failed at 29 years of age. The CEL is a simple circuit - it's fed with 12V ig+ve and the ECU grounds the circuit to turn the light on. This is the way the ECU manages most outputs.
It's unlikely you'll find a wiring diagram that EXACTLY matches your model, The donor for my Sierra was a 1992 EFI LWB Vitara, and I have a factory Vitara manual with all the supplements (the supplement for the 5 door as almost as big as the whole manual for the 3 door car). I was unable to find a wiring diagram that exactly matched my car, even with the complete factory manuals. The best fit I found was the Saudi Arabian market model, as it didn't have daytime running lights or other weirdness.
The service manual contains a procedure to put the ECU into diagnostic mode, which lights the CEL with the engine running. On my car, I've fitted a switch to enable this without fiddling around with a paperclip on the side of the road, but if the globe has blown, this won't help. If you're sure the globe is intact, it might be a way of helping to troubleshoot the circuit.
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Lonestar
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 pm Posts: 11
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:37 pm |
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Thanks for your responses… after considerable time I have finally got around to pulling the instrument cluster out in attempt to finally resolve this (hopefully). After removing the instrument cluster I have discovered the CEL has no globe or any sort of electrical connect, but I can see the check engine writing if I shine a torch into the instrument cluster. I can also see there doesn’t appear to be VSS connections. I have wired a CEL light temporary by tapping into its wire in the wiring loom behind the cluster.
I’m wondering if the instrument cluster has be swapped with a different model like a non EFI? Can any confirm or have any other suggestions.
Thank in advance
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12966 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 5:40 pm |
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Yes, it’s possible the cluster was swapped for a carby cluster, I guess.
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Lonestar
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 pm Posts: 11
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:02 pm |
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Oh, thanks for confirming this is possible, I will find other instrument cluster
Last edited by Lonestar on Mon Apr 14, 2025 8:41 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Lonestar
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 pm Posts: 11
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:03 pm |
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Oh, that's for confirming this is possible, I will find other instrument cluster
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Lonestar
Joined: Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:31 pm Posts: 11
Vehicle: Suzuki Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2025 6:41 pm |
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Heres are a few pics of the instrument cluster, do you think it looks like a carby model?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12966 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2025 3:16 pm |
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Sorry for the delay, yes, that is a carb cluster. No VSS or CE light
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