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magnat
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Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1066 Location: Southern Highlands N
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 Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:35 am |
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While the Falken Wild Peaks have been INCREDIBLE on the rocks and trails...
They sorta get plugged really quickly in mud and have next to no lateral grip.. (As in if your on a slight angle on a muddy hill.. you tend to crab walk and NOT move forward).
So I am looking for some Mud terrains.. I don't care if they are Hercules or Deestone or anything like that as long as they are not a re-tread..
(I know BF-Goodrich make a Muddy that will fit but I am not a rich man... so sorta looking in the sub $250 per corner area)
235/60/R16 is the standard size for the XL-7 and 15 inch rims won't fit over the front Caliper.. Now I do have a 40mm lift kit in...
I think I have seen Muddies in a 235/70/R16... Just looking at my options for some decent mudding tyres..
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:53 am |
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TSL super swampers
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Chop
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:22 am |
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why not 225's? heaps of muds in your budget in that size.
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christover1
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Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:26 am |
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Sco-tie
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:02 pm Posts: 928 Location: Adelaide hills!
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 2:00 am |
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 atari4x4 wrote: TSL super swampers
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bohuler
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Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1376 Location: Avonsleigh, Victoria
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:52 am |
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Lets start out with some facts. Your standard tyre is 235/60R16 which has an OD of 688mm The 235/70R16 has an OD of 735mm which is about 6.83% bigger If you went to a 225/75R16 with on OD 744mm which is only 10mm bigger again then you have a massive range of tyres avalible. If you wanted to keep the 235/70R16 then the tyre I would suggest would be a Maxxis Trepador in a 205R16. http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetai ... d=16&cat=4It has an OD of 734mm which is just 1mm smaller then the 235/70R16. All the size info for the tyre comparison can be looked at http://www.1010tires.com/Tools/Tire-Size-CalculatorAll you do is put your stock size in and the sizes I have listed here then it will give you all the info I have given here and more. My recommendation would be to find someone with a GV running the 225/75R16 tyres and pinch them for a test run to see how they effect the performance of your car. If it runs the 225/75R16 tyres then go with that size. If it feels to big then drop back to the 205R16 Treps and that should be a good compromise. Hope this helps. Dave
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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atari4x4 wrote: TSL super swampers That. There isn't a better mud tyre. But they're not all that practical for everyone. I'd be looking at 205 R16's.All other things being equal, a narrower tyre outperforms a wider tyre in mud. They're likely cheaper than 225/75's too. Steve.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:15 am |
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You might be better to tell us what percentage of terrains you drive... for example my sierra spends 90% of the time getting me to work and back, and when 4wding i mainly prefer rocks, so a muddy with a slightly closed pattern works well for me. I have 2 sets of tyres, bfg km2 and kumho kl71. I rate the kumhos higher than the km2 for the weight of my car, plus they were much cheaper so bang for buck they are a great tyre.
I ran simex centipedes on the sierra a few years ago, they were brilliant in the mud, unstoppable. But they were useless on pretty much anything else. Lol
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magnat
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Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1066 Location: Southern Highlands N
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:04 pm |
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70% off road and 30 % On road would be Ideal..
Thing with the 205 is yes, its a narrower tyre, Also means a narrower contact patch when not aired down, so would be like an Ice skate on dry tarmac..
75 profile might be just that tad too tall..
70 profile would fit but only just a bee's doodle between it and the rear of the Front arch... I am expecting tyre rub on the chassis on full look but its a small price to pay for traction in mud....
Which is where I get stuck the most.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 5:47 pm |
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??????
Like an ice skate on dry tarmac? Really? Range Rovers were running 160km/h on 205R16s, in an 1875Kg car, in 1971. I think you'll be OK in an XL7. There's nothing wrong with a bit of ground pressure.
You asked about the most effective mud tyre, not the most effective road tyre.
I don't think even Piggles runs 70% offroad and 30% on road, so with a proportion of offroad use that high, I'd be looking at bias ply 700X16's or similar.
Steve.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2013 6:01 pm |
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 clearly he needs swampers steve. any cheap mud terrain will be fine for what you need, have a look at the trail diggers. 
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