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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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Okay,
So i have reduction gears and a new dd on the way...
SO a few newb questions...
1. How good will the reduction gears be if i step up to 33's? are they low enough? 2. How much guard choping will i have to do to fit 33's... 3. Is it worth going to 33's with a IFS Vit? 4. What lift do you advised to fit with 33's (is 3" sus + 2" body enough) 5. better of just getting a sierra?
The 33's will only be on for weekends... Trying to sus the options
Last edited by Samwich on Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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33's would be too big I reckon, the effort involved to fit them isn't worth it as you will lose too much power turning them, not to mention you would need C.V.'s made of unobtainium.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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how about learn to wheel it on the 31's first, then see if you NEED to go to a larger tyre.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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sorry but your asking for trouble.!!
your cvs will die, your diffs will die and you will kill just about every thing else.
honestly if you dont know how to go about fitting 33s to the car without asking in noob talk you probably dont need 33s
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:08 am |
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alright ill still with the 31's
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Maxx13
Joined: Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:13 pm Posts: 519 Location: Tasmania
Vehicle: SAS'd Vitara on 35's
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Go the 33's 
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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CVs, steering and firewall will be your big problems.
I'd like to think that I can get to 33s eventually, but I'm doing it in stages and solving the little problems as I come across them (longer rear arms, guard triming, gearing, CV strength, blah blah blah.) The little teeth on my 5.12 ring gear has me a little apprehensive.
I'm never going to run more lift than the 3"+2" so have to think a bit more laterally now.
It's achievable, but there are lots and lots of things to get around to make them work.
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
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DarkHorse

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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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Why 33's? I know the ol' "bigger is better" but, I think 33's is waaay over kill. And you say you'll be using them for weekends only, but you'll get so sick of swapping tyres over you'll never take them off.
I also think 31's or even 30's will get you in and out of everything you'd need.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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Mines capable enough on 31's. Would love bigger, but not prepared to do the work, or spend the dosh. I run transfer gears in mine, they would turn 33's easily in low, but not in high.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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mate, learn to drive with a smaller tyre first, then when you think you cant do any more.....keep trying.......then find some 33's. There is probably a lot of stuff that will break with them. Then again, later down the track i would like to get a full size 32 for the harder tracks.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
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christover1 wrote: Mines capable enough on 31's. Would love bigger, but not prepared to do the work, or spend the dosh. I run transfer gears in mine, they would turn 33's easily in low, but not in high. I was happy with how mine went on 31s. A second locker and it would have been a great DD/rec compromise. The only reason I'm pushing further is because I learn more with every step, and that's why I bought the car in the first place. Haven't driven anything with the gears in yet, so I'll see how that goes with the 265s (and maybe an H20 to shove things along a bit...  ) If you were doing any road distance in a 1.6 on 33s I think you'd have to look at an Undertaker or Sierra transfer to knock high range down a bit. oohsam wrote: Why 33's? I know the ol' "bigger is better" but, I think 33's is waaay over kill. And you say you'll be using them for weekends only, but you'll get so sick of swapping tyres over you'll never take them off.
I also think 31's or even 30's will get you in and out of everything you'd need. Bigger is better for a reason, and not just looks  Diff clearance and a larger contact patch are the most immediate, but approach, ramp over and departure angles are all improved, as well as the approach angle of the tyre itself when you're up against a step, especially if it's undercut. This is obviously balanced out by weight, gearing, resistance in steering, clearance, and increased (leveraged) loads on every part of the drive train.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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I thought my parts vit was pretty capable when it was on 33s. Stock gearing as well.
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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DarkHorse wrote: CVs, steering and firewall will be your big problems.
I'd like to think that I can get to 33s eventually, but I'm doing it in stages and solving the little problems as I come across them (longer rear arms, guard triming, gearing, CV strength, blah blah blah.) The little teeth on my 5.12 ring gear has me a little apprehensive.
I'm never going to run more lift than the 3"+2" so have to think a bit more laterally now.
It's achievable, but there are lots and lots of things to get around to make them work. Im happy to put in the work, i have a new dd. and i have a 100s LC that will be pasted to me in the next year or 2, Within 5 years this car will just be my "Play Toy" I have a 2.6L turbo engine sitting around ready to go in if the 1.6 dies, So in the end 33's will be fine to push
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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shandy92 wrote: mate, learn to drive with a smaller tyre first, then when you think you cant do any more.....keep trying.......then find some 33's. There is probably a lot of stuff that will break with them. Then again, later down the track i would like to get a full size 32 for the harder tracks. Dude.. I have been 4x4ing my whole life, i have done advanced training and have a certificate for it. I know theres alot to upgrade, but im happy to do that in the end.
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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oohsam wrote: Why 33's? I know the ol' "bigger is better" but, I think 33's is waaay over kill. And you say you'll be using them for weekends only, but you'll get so sick of swapping tyres over you'll never take them off.
I also think 31's or even 30's will get you in and out of everything you'd need. They arent over kill, I am using 31's and swap them on and off everytime i wheel now, 33's = no difference
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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pezz wrote: S.A.S.  Future mod 
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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there was no 37" option?
i daily drove mine to north ryde (100k round trip) on 32's for a few weeks, was really not that bad, would sit on 120 in 5th no worries
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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I ran the calamari 3" suspension kit and a 2" body lift with -44 15x8's and 32" wranglers. Had to chop the front guards up a bit.
Was good on road, and fine Offroad in the mid, but when it came to technical driving (like rocks) I had to ride the clutch everywhere.
It all comes down to how and what you drive.
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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Bucket wrote: I ran the calamari 3" suspension kit and a 2" body lift with -44 15x8's and 32" wranglers. Had to chop the front guards up a bit.
Was good on road, and fine Offroad in the mid, but when it came to technical driving (like rocks) I had to ride the clutch everywhere.
It all comes down to how and what you drive. did you have reduction gears tho?
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: Vit swb 95
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 Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:15 am |
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Yeah i wouldnt go bigger then 31;s without em i got some coming soon
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brando93

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Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:29 am Posts: 309 Location: Perth Hills
Vehicle: 89 SWB vitara, g16b conversion
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saw a vitara on youtube on 38's. its a completely off road only swamp basher, just rediculously cut guards, pretty awesome 
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Samwich
Joined: Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:13 pm Posts: 1125 Location: Canberra
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9347 Location: Newcastle
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or hill billy mobile
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