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| Author: | shep [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | General LJ80 questions |
I am thinking about buying a lj80 down south and driving it home so what spares do I need to orginise for the trip? Assuming that everything is in good condition how fast could it cruise and what sort of fuel range will it have? |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 8:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
spare plugs, leads, oil, water, highwaystar cruises in his around 90km/h but his is revving really high, like 7-8000, if the one your buying is more standard you might get 90-100. i think they are a 40 litre tank. so around 10ish kms per litre. take a pillow cos the standard seats are dreadfullll!!!!!! |
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| Author: | sideways [ Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Take a spare everything you can, most stuff is specific to Stockman LJs though so unless you already have a collection then it's just general universal parts. There's nothing in particular that goes wrong with them really, it's just all neglect. As you probably know, I recently bought a LJ80v Stockman. It's got 205/70 tyres(2.5" smaller than standard) and it comfortably cruises at 90km/h (indicated 100). It'd do more but the shitty steering makes it a bit of a handful if you're going any faster. On really good roads you can sit on and indicated 110 but it does get a bit loud. One that's been looked after and has free wheeling hubs would be better. I've had it up to an indicated 130(well, where 130 would be if the speedo went that high) which works out at 6500-7000 RPM and the midget motor was still happy, impossible to keep it in a strait line though. I get 8-10l per 100km so with a 40l tank that's 400+kms. Take some spotlights if you wanna do night driving, LJ headlights are just like Sierra ones. Ask how old the tyres are, LJs don't get driven much so chances are they're rolling around on a set of tyres that are 15 years old. Good luck, get pictures! |
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| Author: | Highway-Star [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
tanshi wrote: spare plugs, leads, oil, water, highwaystar cruises in his around 90km/h but his is revving really high, like 7-8000, if the one your buying is more standard you might get 90-100. i think they are a 40 litre tank. so around 10ish kms per litre. take a pillow cos the standard seats are dreadfullll!!!!!! Now that I'm back on 2stroke 4.8 diffs, and a 4.9 Sierra TC, mine will wind out to 100+ happily. They happily cruise at about 4500-5000rpm range though. Will go up to 9000rpm+ if you need to overtake something... Mine gets 14km/L on a good day. Bad day is 11km/L (loaded with spares and camping gear flogging it along the highway at 90-100 at lots of rpm). Mine is a 1L though, which is slightly more engine, but not really allot more... (and so close to the same engine as an 800 its not funny). Spares.... Depends on the car and its condition I guess. Make sure you have cable ties, fencing wire (and pliers), insulation tape and some spare wire. With that you could bodge your way out of a fair few things. Spare ignition parts (points, etc) would be my main concern from the engine (unless the carby is up the creek, or it has cooling issues). A spare fuel pump might be good too if you can throw one in. I like to carry spares of all the steering linkages, as they have been known to break (not commonly, but I go overkill on spares anyway... whole transfer and diffs is quite normal for me...). A spare jackshaft will get you out of trouble (only unis are a concern, as they could be very old unis), If the rear shaft goes, use FWD... Carry some gear oil and engine oil, the engine will probably burn a bit, and the transfers are notorious leakers.... Make sure you have an appropriate screw driver to adjust the brakes, they WILL need adjusting numerous times on a trip that far. They may even need an overhaul before you even commence the trip... On tools, a Hammer, 1 of each screwdriver, and a metric socket set will pull apart or put back together almost an entire LJ (I've actually stripped one or 2 with a set of metric ratchet spanners and hammer and screwdrivers). Everything is actually quite reliable if the car is well enough looked after, and most breakages will only occur from neglect or wheeling one a bit past its design intentions... If you need to familiarise yourself with one better; service manual is here: http://www.lj10.com/lj80service/ |
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| Author: | shep [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Thanks fellas. I find out today if the car is worth buying. I will just raid my Sierra toolkit and add points, cap and rotor. Might take my cooling system test kit as well so can hopefully find any problems before I leave adelaide as I will proberbly be 45 deg in central Aust. |
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| Author: | UBZ [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Check the tire pressures , I run mine at only 18psi on road . my transfer needs an oil top up every 200km ( really throws the oil out at highway speeds) with the standard F8a (800cc) and stock tyres (6.00x16) mine is comfortable at about 80-85km /hr and will get 15km/ltr it will go to 100km but gets floaty over 90km I quite often remove the front drive shaft for long road drive as well. |
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| Author: | shep [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Haha ok what sort of gear oil and what tool to fill it? |
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| Author: | Highway-Star [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
shep wrote: Haha ok what sort of gear oil and what tool to fill it? Regular 80W-90 gear oil (same as Sierra transfer, diffs etc). Phillips screw driver to take the top of the tunnel off, then a small socket (think its 12mm) to take the top plate off the transfer case. There is a small filler plug, but its a total PITA. |
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| Author: | shep [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Righto. The car runs like shit. Are they a hard carby to stick a kit through? And how hard is it to set points? The last car I had that had points was a 1974 fj40 that wasn't all that old when I bought it. |
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| Author: | Highway-Star [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
shep wrote: Righto. The car runs like shit. Are they a hard carby to stick a kit through? And how hard is it to set points? The last car I had that had points was a 1974 fj40 that wasn't all that old when I bought it. My 1L carby wasn't too hard, Having only looked at 800 carbs, I can't imagine they would be much different. Just a simpleish side draft thing, with a float bowl at the front, and power pump underneath. Don't know about the points too much, I gave up and just dropped a 1.3 dizzy in mine |
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| Author: | shep [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Does a 1.3 dizzy fit a 800? I have a pile of them in my shed |
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| Author: | UBZ [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
just need feeler guages and the right page out of the FSM to set the pionts . timming marks are on the fly wheel. and a thin file to resurface the pionts if required . condensers can be problematic as well . 1.3 dissy should swap striaght in (needs a +12volt feed). but the oil in the dizzy / fuel pump housing will pour out when you pull the dizzy. the housing has a filler bolt on the top . carb kits are availible , but there are two slightly different types of carb with different plunger setups. its commen for the float level to be wrong . can be checked on little window on carb . they like to leak air in from the butterfly shaft and are offten full of oil from the PCV. |
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| Author: | Highway-Star [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
1.3 Dizzy fits. As UBZ said though, you will spill some oil swapping them over. The need some small wiring mods to work though (basically make the ignition wiring imitate a 1.3 Sierra's wiring). You also want the Sierra coil, and no balast resister. Also you will need to hook up the vacuum advance.. not sure where is available on the 800 manifold???, the 1L manifold carbon canister fitting gets used on mine, and on factory fitted 1L Marutis. |
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| Author: | Jackson [ Sat Nov 17, 2012 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
The vacuum advance wouldn't be an absolutely required thing. It only really works when your cruising to improve efficiency a little. As for the wiring the ones from the dizzy you run the black wire white trace to the positive of the coil and the brown one to the negative. |
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| Author: | want33s [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 6:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
hillbilly wrote: if it has sat for a while , or it only does short trips .....your radiator may give you grief on a highway run,especialy if the radiator shrowd is gone....i'd pesonaly check the steering rack and pinion adjusment bolt......or you may find yourself all over the road at high speed(90kph).....they will sit on 90 all day long......your rear drum brakes may delaminate if there old ,( on the highway ....it feels like every car in australia is overtaking you).....there a fun car to drive, especialy the soft top with the windscreen down Would be easy if LJ's had a steering rack............. or do you really mean the "Sector shaft" adjuster nut on top of the steering BOX? |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
he means the idler arm. LJs have a strange steering setup and the idler arm bold wears away at the hole and goes loose. |
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| Author: | sideways [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
Fwiw, the adjuster on the steering box on mine had come loose and backed right out. I tightened it back up and now I can keep it in a strait line anywhere up to about 100. I only noticed it when I was measuring up my flex. |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
sideways wrote: Fwiw, the adjuster on the steering box on mine had come loose and backed right out. I tightened it back up and now I can keep it in a strait line anywhere up to about 100. I only noticed it when I was measuring up my flex. mine did this during a comp this year. wound its way so far out that the steering wheel freespun. wasnt till i DNF'd that i realised what it was and could have had aaron wind the nut back in so i could continue. |
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| Author: | sideways [ Fri Dec 07, 2012 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: General LJ80 questions |
tanshi wrote: sideways wrote: Fwiw, the adjuster on the steering box on mine had come loose and backed right out. I tightened it back up and now I can keep it in a strait line anywhere up to about 100. I only noticed it when I was measuring up my flex. mine did this during a comp this year. wound its way so far out that the steering wheel freespun. wasnt till i DNF'd that i realised what it was and could have had aaron wind the nut back in so i could continue. So you get no steering when it backs to far out? Mine had about 1/3rd of a turn of freeplay then the 1/4 turn of vague steering that LJs have, it was ridiculous to drive. Bloody sucks that you DNF'd over such a simple thing! |
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