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Author:  Joe [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Spot light upgrade
I've had these Hella spot lights sitting in the shed for years and thought i might as well clean them up to use on the front of the GV with a LED light bar.
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Now i've cleaned them up and put on new plugs and wires on the inside bits and have tested them and they work Armsup but now i was thinking if i could make them brighter :D

This is the globe
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Can ya buy more powerful globes or is there any tricks to making them brighter?
Cost of these so far is zero so i don't mind spending a couple of bucks on them :D

Cheers Joe
Author:  sideways [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Look up HID conversion kits for a H3 globe on Ebay, there will be plenty around. :)

You can get 130w globes too but that's a lot of power to be pulling vs the more efficient 55w HID set up which will provide the same, if not more light. :)
Author:  Joe [ Sun Nov 04, 2012 11:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
sideways wrote:
Look up HID conversion kits for a H3 globe on Ebay, there will be plenty around. :)

You can get 130w globes too but that's a lot of power to be pulling vs the more efficient 55w HID set up which will provide the same, if not more light. :)


Cheers mate :) do ya reckon you could post up a link to the ones I would need from eBay they all look the same to me :oops:
Author:  HellonWheels [ Wed Nov 07, 2012 7:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Jaycar electronics sell the HID kits aswell for cheap, pretty sure they are 35w and come in H1,H3 and H4. they cost about $70 each and come with ballast and bulbs.
Author:  klutched [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Just buy some lights offf me :D
Author:  bakerboy [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
joe I have a spare set of LED spotties coming through in the next week or so if you wanted to suss them out, they are small, but could be an option
Author:  Joe [ Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
HellonWheels wrote:
Jaycar electronics sell the HID kits aswell for cheap, pretty sure they are 35w and come in H1,H3 and H4. they cost about $70 each and come with ballast and bulbs.


Sorry mate didn't realize someone had posted in here :oops:
I went to Jaycar the other day and all they had wad the same globes that were already in there :?

klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay

bakerboy wrote:
joe I have a spare set of LED spotties coming through in the next week or so if you wanted to suss them out, they are small, but could be an option


How small is small?
Author:  sideways [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:

Any of the kits in this will do it. :) http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_nkw= ... &_osacat=0
Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:


makes you wonder how cheap they actually are if the guy on ebay can let them go at that cost & still turn a profit after getting touched up be ebay with all their fees etc.
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
You don't even need to wonder. Shep posted prices here ages ago and since them the suppliers have even dropped their prices. And the big LED group buy thread has plenty of pricing in it too...
Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
yeah that's buying pairs & single lights... i'm sure a bulk buy would bring it down substantially :wink:
Author:  sideways [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
atari4x4 wrote:
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:


makes you wonder how cheap they actually are if the guy on ebay can let them go at that cost & still turn a profit after getting touched up be ebay with all their fees etc.


That $120 includes postage too.

I just bought a pair. :)
Author:  bakerboy [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
4", 42w each, 10° spread and yeah whilst prices are good for group buys, there are even better prices for bulk, at the end of the day they vary in price because they can be subsidised with other gear they sell
Author:  Joe [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:


I don't like being lied too :wink:

Joe wrote:
Hey klutched are you making any coin out of this for your self?


klutched wrote:
Nah mate not really, just AUD to USD currency exchange get like 5c or something per dollar.


I would of been more then happy to help the kid out to make a few bucks if he was honest from the get go
Author:  Joe [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
bakerboy wrote:
4", 42w each


pm me a price mate :D
Author:  sideways [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Joe wrote:
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:


I don't like being lied too :wink:

Joe wrote:
Hey klutched are you making any coin out of this for your self?


klutched wrote:
Nah mate not really, just AUD to USD currency exchange get like 5c or something per dollar.


I would of been more then happy to help the kid out to make a few bucks if he was honest from the get go


I must say, I was surprised he was let into the Advertisers section. :)
Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:


I don't like being lied too :wink:

Joe wrote:
Hey klutched are you making any coin out of this for your self?


klutched wrote:
Nah mate not really, just AUD to USD currency exchange get like 5c or something per dollar.


I would of been more then happy to help the kid out to make a few bucks if he was honest from the get go


I must say, I was surprised he was let into the Advertisers section. :)


bwhahahaha

i was tempted to order a LED light bar through him, but i doubt it now.
Author:  Chop [ Mon Nov 12, 2012 9:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
atari4x4 wrote:
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
sideways wrote:
Joe wrote:
klutched wrote:
Just buy some lights offf me :D


No i can buy the same lights cheaper off ebay


Brutal honesty Joe! :lol:


I don't like being lied too :wink:

Joe wrote:
Hey klutched are you making any coin out of this for your self?


klutched wrote:
Nah mate not really, just AUD to USD currency exchange get like 5c or something per dollar.


I would of been more then happy to help the kid out to make a few bucks if he was honest from the get go


I must say, I was surprised he was let into the Advertisers section. :)


bwhahahaha

i was tempted to order a LED light bar through him, but i doubt it now.


Same here :lol:
Author:  bakerboy [ Wed Nov 14, 2012 11:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Only small Joe, but I think you'll be happy with them, I know I am haha just quickly tested it and made me laugh at the amount of light it threw out

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Author:  klutched [ Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
atari4x4 wrote:

i was tempted to order a LED light bar through him, but i doubt it now.


Try find em cheaper on ebay.
Author:  atari4x4 [ Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
i'd buy direct & save just like you're doing. :wink:

also this from your listing in the business directory.

Quote:
HID DRIVING LIGHTS 7" $150 per pair


compared to this

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221148530171 ... 1527wt_754

$30 difference & free postage :roll:

still not sure why Off Road Armoury wasn't allowed to advertise here but you're able to onsell your chinese lights? :?
Author:  klutched [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Yeah I pay $114 for my HIDs, It's not worth it if I sell them for $120. Postage just fucks them unless you do a massive order for like 40 lights. Even still last time the lights came out at $126 per pair. They have a couple different lights though. I don't buy the shit ones that you linked me. They're only IP65 as to my IP68 ones. That's why he can sell them so cheap. But you know if you mounting them on your roof they'd be alright.
Author:  sideways [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
klutched wrote:
Yeah I pay $114 for my HIDs, It's not worth it if I sell them for $120. Postage just fucks them unless you do a massive order for like 40 lights. Even still last time the lights came out at $126 per pair. They have a couple different lights though. I don't buy the shit ones that you linked me. They're only IP65 as to my IP68 ones. That's why he can sell them so cheap. But you know if you mounting them on your roof they'd be alright.


So what is better about the IP68?
Author:  klutched [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
It's just more waterproof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

Look under "Liquid Ingress Protection." read difference between 5 and 8.
Author:  GeckoXL7 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
My HID's are IP67 and the LED's are IP67 as well. there all Siliconed up and have Rubber rings to seal them, so can be submerged up to a meter, The IP65's prob only just missing the rubber seal, which i recon is a easy fix.

Klutched have you opened one of your lights up?

The HIDs are the same lights that places in AU sell for $496 and up..
Author:  klutched [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Yeah I've opened a couple up. And apparently the IP67/8 have better ballasts.

Which place?
Author:  GeckoXL7 [ Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
VMS Lights look very similar and ive seen lights identical at around the same price or more with the RED ring.

I got mine from DHgate, few sell them but mine are direct from the Manufacturer.. PM'd you, they also made the LED light bar and got them alot cheaper than can on ebay ;)

I reacon if had two of the light bars on the place of the HID's the light output would of been more than enough for what i need, so damn bright..
Author:  royce [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Remember how I said no flaming in this section? just give up being a bunch of tough guys already

Atari and sideways, you dont have the luxury of commenting on what I chose to do.

No actually you do, pick when your time in the moderated group starts
Author:  atari4x4 [ Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
meh, whenever it suits you. :roll:
Author:  GeckoXL7 [ Wed Nov 21, 2012 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Spot light upgrade
Cheapest you can get them http://www.dhgate.com/2pcs-55w-7-hid-xe ... 012bf.html $109 delivered. If get from china, and they fail you have to pay the postage back which is like $46 to 75 (most often not worth it) A reason why i wont on sell chinese imported stuff, tried before i ended up loosing money as had to refund postage damaged goods.

If bought bulk say 10 it makes them 100 a set delivery in australia for the lights would be around $10-15. So some on ebay are making a measly 5bucks profit while others if they manage to sell the lights are making between 80- 300 profit.

Found this site, not selling them for that much but the LED bars looks like hes selling them as single bars not as pairs but the 6" look almost identical to my 7.5"

http://brightlightsnstuff.com.au/index.php?cPath=2

Just to show how much the price varies for AU sellers. List can go on forever.... Actual factory. http://auto-victory.com/

http://www.delonixradar.com.au/hid-xeno ... hts/7007a/
Made by same factory just differnt design and factory sell for same price.
http://www.camperdeals.com.au/deals/xen ... hts-x-2-2/
http://www.offroadindustries.com.au/pro ... s-pair-red
http://www.ledaustralia4x4.com.au/7%22- ... t-beam-55w
http://shoreline4x4.com.au/7-inch-55w-h ... p-394.html
http://www.offroadindustries.com.au/pro ... pair-black
http://www.light5light.com.au/page12.htm

For the LED light distance, it shines on the house at the end of the street, there is 38 houses on my street plus a main road and street in between. Working out that the length is 20 blocks making the road and street block widths, block width is 36meters 20 x 16 = 320meters.
Will have to test out HID's once wired and give them a chance to warm up.
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