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| Author: | jw6277 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Power cam |
Hi everyone, I have a g16a with a Weber, extractors and a decent exhaust in my sierra, but lately the motor is developing some rattles and clunks (maybe piston slap or gudgeon noise). I have a spare 1.6 sitting around and i'v decided that im going to rebuild the it ready for when the rattly one dies. I'v done some searching around but im hoping some one on here can give me their opinion. Is anyone using the isky 272 high end power cam? i have read heaps of stats and people say that they SHOULD be a good cam but is anyone actually using one? Before anyone says go injected, i already thought about that but i want to rebuild the engine as a learning experience and im pretty happy with the amount of go that my carb'd 1.6 has already. Thanks in advance to anyone who replies. Jake |
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| Author: | zooky08 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
if you were in qld you could get these guys to make you one, or send in yours and they'll machine the cam to the torque range you want. http://www.tighecams.com.au/ |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
hey have u ajusted the valve lash they need ajusting every know and then they start sounding like there broken u even end up losing a little bit of performance a lot of peeps think there engine is getting stuffed but it just needs to the lifters reset. i dont know if this the problem but hopefully for u it is it would be a lot cheaper than another cam 
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| Author: | jw6277 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Thanks for the link zooky08 Keensy85 Yeah i adjusted the valves about a week ago which stopped one of the noises but there is a noise in the bottom end. It confuses me because it still runs good and goes hard it just doesn't sound happy. Iv done all the basic checks, oil level, loose bolts stuff like that but its definitely a lower internal noise. thanks for the suggestion though
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| Author: | Daz7 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
With cams if its gaining power up top, you'll lose some low end. Sometimes they can get a bit of overlap out of them but basically your moving what you have around and perfecting that RPM range. If your after more oomph than what a "good" standard engine puts out, upgrade to another Zook engine. |
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| Author: | jw6277 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 6:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Daz7: Thanks for the explanation, i'm just curious to see weather anyone actually uses this cam, alot of people use the torquer cam but not the higher rpm one. |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
jw6277 wrote: Thanks for the link zooky08 Keensy85 Yeah i adjusted the valves about a week ago which stopped one of the noises but there is a noise in the bottom end. It confuses me because it still runs good and goes hard it just doesn't sound happy. Iv done all the basic checks, oil level, loose bolts stuff like that but its definitely a lower internal noise. thanks for the suggestion though Sounds like a bottom end bearing eventually the con rod gets enough movement on the crank(slops around) and the piston head butts the cylinder head if it gets loud pull over but she could go bang |
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| Author: | jw6277 [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Hi Keensy85, thanks for that, i have to do a sump gasket so when i pull the sump off will i be able to see the movement? From what your saying im glad iv got a spare engine just in case haha |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Yer jigggle the con rods u should be able to even replace a bearing with sump off don't quote me on that thou |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Jiggle not juggle |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
atari4x4 wrote: this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. ur starting to sound like 1 of my school teachers from I was at school .ROFLMAO |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
i was trying to help you out so you didn't look like a mouth breathing fucktard, but you seem to do that well, so carry on as you were. |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
atari4x4 wrote: i was trying to help you out so you didn't look like a mouth breathing fucktard, but you seem to do that well, so carry on as you were. WOAH Mr sensitive my response was not ment to be aggressive towards you ,I was just trying to turn it into a joke as I had forgot u can edit ur post , but as usual Atari4x4 u have to try find something to bad mouth towards some one else ,pull ur head in. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
i was offering sound advice & you gave a smart arse reply. so i returned the favour... 
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
zooky08 wrote: if you were in qld you could get these guys to make you one, or send in yours and they'll machine the cam to the torque range you want. http://www.tighecams.com.au/ I spent an hour on the phone with these guys, working on weight of vehicle, induction, ignition, exhaust, gearing, tyre size, style of driving, rev range when doing hard drives etc etc etc. Was told they would build me a custom, 1 off cam to suit, we haggled about a few things, overlap/lift/duration bottom end and top end rev ranges, worked out something that sounded really good. Was told the had to order a blank, and that it would arrive in a fortnight. Every fortnight for months I rang, gave up, bunch of tossers IMO. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
SuziBlu wrote: zooky08 wrote: if you were in qld you could get these guys to make you one, or send in yours and they'll machine the cam to the torque range you want. http://www.tighecams.com.au/ I spent an hour on the phone with these guys, working on weight of vehicle, induction, ignition, exhaust, gearing, tyre size, style of driving, rev range when doing hard drives etc etc etc. Was told they would build me a custom, 1 off cam to suit, we haggled about a few things, overlap/lift/duration bottom end and top end rev ranges, worked out something that sounded really good. Was told the had to order a blank, and that it would arrive in a fortnight. Every fortnight for months I rang, gave up, bunch of tossers IMO. polar_bear has a similar story about old mate Ivan Tighe, I think they lost his camshaft 3 or 4 times before finally getting what he ordered months & months later. someone on here had a stock cam reground with a mild profile & spoke pretty highly of the person who did it & how it performed. |
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| Author: | sideways [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
atari4x4 wrote: this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. It's probably worth noting that you can edit posts on Facebook too. There's a little thing in the top right corner you click on. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
sideways wrote: atari4x4 wrote: this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. It's probably worth noting that you can edit posts on Facebook too. There's a little thing in the top right corner you click on. haha that's news to me not being a big facebook user, but do i see heaps of people correcting incorrectly spelt words by spamming another post... |
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| Author: | jw6277 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Thanks Keensy85 ill have a look and keep you updated, i appreciate your help. Thanks Suziblu ill probably just end up getting one of the Isky cams. |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
sideways wrote: atari4x4 wrote: this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. It's probably worth noting that you can edit posts on Facebook too. There's a little thing in the top right corner you click on. Oh totaly I agree I'm just sick of atari4x4 being a toss to peeps,come on calling some one a fucktard is disrespectfull ,my comment was ment joking around as I know Atari4x4 has a sense of humor I can swear to but it doesn't help anyone |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
need a hug princess? 
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
If ur offering u Gota buy me a drink at least first ,I'm not that easy |
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| Author: | HarryHoudini [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Just a word about Cam grinds,if the guy really knows his stuff you may be lucky but in my experience its usually a backward step.They are very good with old Holden & Ford straight sixes but as soon as they start playing around with the valve timing on modern motors its very iffy,its all show & tell but when put on the car on the Dyno the standard cam or a Factory replacement usually turns out the best option. All this is MO of course. |
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| Author: | TZAR [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
KEENSY85 wrote: sideways wrote: atari4x4 wrote: this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. It's probably worth noting that you can edit posts on Facebook too. There's a little thing in the top right corner you click on. Oh totaly I agree I'm just sick of atari4x4 being a toss to peeps,come on calling some one a fucktard is disrespectfull ,my comment was ment joking around as I know Atari4x4 has a sense of humor I can swear to but it doesn't help anyone Ilike fagtari even his choice in motor cars is a little gay, but I would rather have ten fagtaris than one of you ya whingy whiny fucktard. If you dont like his posts click on his profile, click Foe and you wont see his posts again. Works for me and jonno the cap'n fucktard and tyron the little whingy whiny bitch. Anyway back to cams may I suggest REDLINEGTI.COM for performance mods. Unless you tell us what you want to achieve. For most of the people here an increase in torque and getting higher torque at a lower speed is the best we want. Do you want a faster accelerating car, a more fuel economical car, an all out awesome machine that is more awesome than a shep mobile??? ( ps not possible). We cant really help you with a question that is so generic. You ask about a certain cam but tell us what you hope to achieve from it. More info to us better answers for you. |
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| Author: | TZAR [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
KEENSY85 wrote: jw6277 wrote: Thanks for the link zooky08 Keensy85 Yeah i adjusted the valves about a week ago which stopped one of the noises but there is a noise in the bottom end. It confuses me because it still runs good and goes hard it just doesn't sound happy. Iv done all the basic checks, oil level, loose bolts stuff like that but its definitely a lower internal noise. thanks for the suggestion though Sounds like a bottom end bearing eventually the con rod gets enough movement on the crank(slops around) and the piston head butts the cylinder head if it gets loud pull over but she could go bang Awesome tech Dude..... JW6277 get you self a long bit of solid steel say 400mm long and try this. You put one end against the block down the bottom near the rod ends and place the other end DIRECTLY against your ear. This will transfer the vibrations from any bottom end knock (or other noise) dodgy on for listening for noises to began with  This one will narrow down the place to start looking. Great for drivetrain noises. Yes you look like a dick but its cheap so who cares. This is taken form here http://ezinearticles.com/?Car-Repair--- ... id=3579770 An unlikely car repair tool for the do-it-yourselfer is a stick or piece of wood much like a yardstick. It won't help you fix much of anything, but it can help you pinpoint the source of abnormal noise in your car engine. Here is how it works. Any abnormal noise is a type of vibration. An object like a rigid stick will transmit vibration over its length, so you can use it as a sort of stethoscope to identify sources of trouble in your engine compartment. It's not especially comfortable to use, but it works. To use this homemade stethoscope, simply place one end of the stick on suspected sources of vibration (while the engine is running) and place the other end up against your ear. Gently press closed your ear opening with a blunt end of the stick and your closed ear will act much like a speaker, allowing the sounds to be transmitted to your ear drum so you can determine the location and nature of the noise. By placing the stick against your closed ear, you block out distracting noises of the engine and focus only on noises that produce vibration in proximity of the stick. You'll be amazed at how clearly you can hear things like bearings, push rods, valve lifters and rocker arms - anything that is moving, clicking, rubbing or slapping up against something else. Using this technique for diagnosing the nature of car repair through sounds helps you pinpoint the source of trouble and obviates removal and internal visual inspection to diagnose the nature of the problem. A word of caution: be very careful while placing the stick against engine components as it can be harmful to you if it gets caught up in the fan blades, fan belts or other moving parts of the engine. The best approach is to put the stick in place first and then position it on the outside of your ear. This allows you to see where you're placing the stick so you can avoid moving parts. Article Source: http://EzineArticles.com/3579770 |
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| Author: | SuziBlu [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
Use a bit of round rod, yes, but also over this put some garden hose, long enuf that you can place the rod where ever you want, while maintaining a decent posture, and view. The hose acts somewhat like an echo chamber, perfect. |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
even just a big flat head screw driver works for me in most cases but ill try the above methods my self next sounds like worth while way:) |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
TZAR wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: sideways wrote: atari4x4 wrote: this isn't failbook keensy, you can edit you're posts rather than double posting & spamming the forum... there is an edit post button on the top right hand corner of you post. It's probably worth noting that you can edit posts on Facebook too. There's a little thing in the top right corner you click on. Oh totaly I agree I'm just sick of atari4x4 being a toss to peeps,come on calling some one a fucktard is disrespectfull ,my comment was ment joking around as I know Atari4x4 has a sense of humor I can swear to but it doesn't help anyone Ilike fagtari even his choice in motor cars is a little gay, but I would rather have ten fagtaris than one of you ya whingy whiny fucktard. If you dont like his posts click on his profile, click Foe and you wont see his posts again. Works for me and jonno the cap'n fucktard and tyron the little whingy whiny bitch. Anyway back to cams may I suggest REDLINEGTI.COM for performance mods. Unless you tell us what you want to achieve. For most of the people here an increase in torque and getting higher torque at a lower speed is the best we want. Do you want a faster accelerating car, a more fuel economical car, an all out awesome machine that is more awesome than a shep mobile??? ( ps not possible). We cant really help you with a question that is so generic. You ask about a certain cam but tell us what you hope to achieve from it. More info to us better answers for you. this bloke WT |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Wed Aug 15, 2012 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Power cam |
WTF is WT  TZAR is a Wide Track? TZAR is a Wet Tampon? TZAR is Well Tested? really wish you'd preview your posts or just stop all together.
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