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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:00 pm |
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I wanna run 31 on my sierra.can I run them with standard gears.i research some info but didnt give me much info.
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atari4x4
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 3:09 pm |
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 not much info, i'm calling BS on that one....  do you want to fit 31's & successfully go off road? you'll need transfer gears... for general touring type 4wding, you can get away with it with use of the clutch a fair bit, but generally it's going to suck. cliff notes: Buy Gears! next question, where do i buy transfer gears? here: http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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my girly car had 33s with stock gearing and it worked fine. i say go for it and see what ya think. 
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:05 pm |
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Couldn't find any information? Seriously? Not trying to be mean but some people should be limited to how many threads they start...
Go through my build too, I have a few photos of the problems you'll more than likely encounter and start a thread about too.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Deego, you'll notice that with all these threads your'e not really getting good answers anymore. Whilst we're happy to help, we're much more willing to help someone who tries to help themselves. I've noticed that you don't ever seem to reply to anyones responses to your own threads. That's strange. Why is that? Are you happy with the answer you're getting or do you lack the knowledge to ask more detailed questions? I don't really believe you did much of a search before posting any of your threads. Do you need assistance with how to search? (Serious question?) To date, you've asked stuff that gets covered VERY regularly, so there's always lots of threads with the tech you need in them. Next, you need to provide more information about your circumstances for us to be able to provide an answer. This is the case for nearly every thread you post. Something like this would go a LONG way to getting the right answers quickly. Quote: Hi guys, my name is Deego and I live in *insert answer here* I have had my suzuki for *insert answer here* long. It's currently stock, but I'd like it to be more capable in *insert type of terrain here* I've seen that lots of guys on here run 31's and because of where I live/type of terrain I want to drive, I was wondering if I was going to get away with standard gearing at all, and if not, which transfer gearing would be right for me.
What's critical is where you live and what you want to drive. If you are in Victoria and want to drive East of the city, I'd suggest you need 5.14's or 6.5's Your car won't be drivable at all off road with stock gears and 31's (this is from experience). If you live in Adelaide/Perth and drive sand/flat land a lot, you might only need a 1.0 transfer case or 4.1's from what I've read. You could repeat the same idea with your shock thread and the winch thread. We need more information to help you make the right decision. It's kind of like saying "I need new shoes.... what shoes should I buy?" It's impossible to answer unless we know what you want to do with the shoes. If you want to discuss how to get more out the board in private, feel free to PM me. Steve.
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Sorry Steve I don't try to be rude with not answering but yes I'm happy with all your answers and I do appreciate it.
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Mike57
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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:42 pm |
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Deego. In an earlier post you asked about longer shocks but never rerally explained anything about your suspension. It might help if you provided a more complete outline of everything you are trying to achieve in one email so we can get the whole picture.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:20 pm |
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Deego, short answer NO.
Even on-road 31's are a bit steep gearing-wise for a standard 1.3L.
Offroad without some sort of gearing reduction (diff or transfer gears) you will find 31's will limit your cars capabilities, whether that is on the beach, on steep hills, in mud, or on rocks.
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:34 am |
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Ok well I got 30 inch tyres 2inch suspension and body lift and that's all I have done.everytime I've been fourbying it's been good it's just sometimes I dont get that traction going up hills and going through rocky terrain I get caught up with my back tyre sitting in the air when i go through a flexy track that's got some big ruts.
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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Deego wrote: Ok well I got 30 inch tyres 2inch suspension and body lift and that's all I have done.everytime I've been fourbying it's been good it's just sometimes I dont get that traction going up hills and going through rocky terrain I get caught up with my back tyre sitting in the air when i go through a flexy track that's got some big ruts. Increasing your tyre size won't compensate for tyres in the air in big ruts. If you have sufficient traction, learn to live with a small car that will drive that way with wheels airborne in big ruts. If you don't have sufficient traction from the remaing wheels on the ground, you could look at improving your suspension articulation or installing diff locks.
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SierraDan
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 10:56 am |
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 5:41 pm |
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I'm reading up about these reduction gears.so when they say 18% in high and 127% in low.does the higher the percentage mean better or worse
Last edited by Deego on Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:09 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:01 pm |
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Lower.
Dunno how you define "better"?
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d1mitch
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:35 pm Posts: 58
Vehicle: multiple R32's, wtd sierra
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:31 am |
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the percentage is talking about the reduction in gearing from standard.
when you add bigger tyres you are increasing your total rolling diameter of your wheels and as such your wheels need to turn less revolutions to do the same speed as you would with standard size tyres, it also takes more power to turn the larger rolling diameter. this is what makes it feel like your car is slower and puts your speedo out.
this obviously affects both low and high range the same
by putting in reduction gears you are rectifying this upgrade of size with gearing.
the high range percentage is to bring you back close to stock gearing, and the low range is to give you a much better crawl speed.
its for you to determine which is better and it depends on which terrain you drive.
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