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Author:  Joe [ Mon May 21, 2012 5:44 pm ]
Post subject:  SQ420 diff gears?
I've asked what diff ratio is in the auto SQ420 before and have been told they are 4.8 however i have also read on here that the they are 5.12 :?
To find out for sure can i count the amount of times the tail shaft turns to one full rotation of the wheel? and if so how many turns of the tail shaft will they be for each ratio?

This is for an auto 2.0L not an auto 1.6L

Cheers Joe
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon May 21, 2012 5:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SQ420 diff gears?
They won't be 5.12's.

I just read that the SQ420 SWB 5sp runs 4.875's. I doubt the auto will run the same.....
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon May 21, 2012 5:51 pm ]
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Well if this link can be trusted..... http://www.4wdonline.com/Suzuki/Vitara.html

They may infact be 5.12's 8O
Author:  Joe [ Mon May 21, 2012 5:58 pm ]
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Fatzook wrote:
Well if this link can be trusted..... http://www.4wdonline.com/Suzuki/Vitara.html

They may infact be 5.12's 8O


Well that's a bit shit :( do you know how many turns of the tail shaft to one rotation of a wheel i need to count just to check to make sure?
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon May 21, 2012 6:03 pm ]
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I thought it was one rotation of the wheel = 5.125 rotations of the tailshaft.

Jack the car up. Chalk the inside of the wheel at 6 o'clock, chalk the flange dust cap and 3rd wherever you want, aslong as they are lined up with each other before you start.

See how many revolutions the tailshaft does to one revolution of the wheel.

EDIT: So if it has 5.12's, you should get a hair over 5 revolutions. 4.8's would be a touch under. 4.6's would be a smidge more than 4 and a half turns etc etc.
Author:  Joe [ Mon May 21, 2012 6:31 pm ]
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Thanks for your help Mr Fat :D

One full revolution of the wheel
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And a bit under five turns of the tail shaft
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So i would say they are 4.8's Armsup now i can get some 5.12's rebuilt with the front in a steel housing pompoms
Author:  Chop [ Mon May 21, 2012 7:43 pm ]
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Joe wrote:
So i would say they are 4.8's Armsup now i can get some 5.12's rebuilt with the front in a steel housing pompoms


But you said that if it had 5.12's that would be shit :lol:

Joe wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
Well if this link can be trusted..... http://www.4wdonline.com/Suzuki/Vitara.html

They may infact be 5.12's 8O


Well that's a bit shit :( do you know how many turns of the tail shaft to one rotation of a wheel i need to count just to check to make sure?
Author:  Joe [ Mon May 21, 2012 8:59 pm ]
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Chop wrote:
Joe wrote:
So i would say they are 4.8's Armsup now i can get some 5.12's rebuilt with the front in a steel housing pompoms


But you said that if it had 5.12's that would be shit :lol:

Joe wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
Well if this link can be trusted..... http://www.4wdonline.com/Suzuki/Vitara.html

They may infact be 5.12's 8O


Well that's a bit shit :( do you know how many turns of the tail shaft to one rotation of a wheel i need to count just to check to make sure?


Nah i want to put bigger tyres on and change the gearing to suit :D if they were already 5.12's i would be stuck in the same boat as my last vitara with no options for better gearing for bigger tyres :wink:
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon May 21, 2012 9:02 pm ]
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5.125's are only 6-8% lower than 4.825's, so this won't correct for much more than a 225/75 16. :?
Author:  zooky08 [ Mon May 21, 2012 9:07 pm ]
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sorry to hijack this thread, what ratio is it when the wheel rotates one revolution to two revolutions of the drive shaft
Author:  Joe [ Mon May 21, 2012 9:08 pm ]
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Fatzook wrote:
5.125's are only 6-8% lower than 4.825's, so this won't correct for much more than a 225/75 16. :?


Will only be going for a 225/75r16/245/70r16 but would like to try some 245/75r16's down the track
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon May 21, 2012 9:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SQ420 diff gears?
zooky08 wrote:
sorry to hijack this thread, what ratio is it when the wheel rotates one revolution to two revolutions of the drive shaft



1:2. You must be doing something wrong.
Author:  zooky08 [ Mon May 21, 2012 9:13 pm ]
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Fatzook wrote:
zooky08 wrote:
sorry to hijack this thread, what ratio is it when the wheel rotates one revolution to two revolutions of the drive shaft



1:2. You must be doing something wrong.

thats what i thought, we did it five times just to make sure, turn the wheel one for revolution and the drive shaft spun two full revolutions, this is ment to be a maruti diff center
Author:  want33s [ Mon May 21, 2012 10:50 pm ]
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Fatzook wrote:
1:2. You must be doing something wrong.



/\ /\ X2 (except it's 2:1)
You are doing it wrong.
Turn the tailshaft.
Sometimes the spider gears will halve the ratio if only one wheel is jacked up.
Author:  zooky08 [ Tue May 22, 2012 2:01 am ]
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Both wheels where of the ground, but only one was turning, so thing your right about the side gear part.
I'll have another go today.
Author:  watermouse [ Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:45 pm ]
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quick tech info update

LWB (5door) SQ420 manual, 1998, has 4.875:1 diffs. (4.825:1?)

Just did the test above. I found it easier to rotate the tailshaft by hand and kept an eye that both wheels turned at the same rate. On the "5th" turn of the tailshaft it went .88 of a turn (to bring the mark on both tyres to the ground) as accurately as I could measure with my dodgy tape measure.
Author:  Bruce [ Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:35 pm ]
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Also 2000gv v6 auto came with 4.875.1.
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