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Author:  fully sick coily [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  welded front diff

hi everyone

i've been thinking of getting a welded centre and was wondering if
it would make a difference on the beach?
and does it effect steering greatly?

thanks max

Author:  SierraDan [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: welded front diff

Yes. and you'll want chromo's otherwise you'll be snapping CV's all the time

Author:  Rusho [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:17 am ]
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SierraDan wrote:
Yes. and you'll want chromo's otherwise you'll be snapping CV's all the time


Not going to happen....'fully sick COILY' user name :wink:

Yes and suck it and see. I have a spare set of cv's :mrgreen:

Author:  SierraDan [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:19 am ]
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Rusho wrote:
SierraDan wrote:
Yes. and your car is gay


Not going to happen....'fully sick COILY' user name :wink:

Yes and suck it and see. I have a spare set of cv's :mrgreen:

Fixed.

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:49 am ]
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You shouldn't need lockers for the beach in a Sierra and a permanently locked front will suck in the sand I reckon, sand is one place where I value quick light steering. If you're not locked rear then I suggest doing that first.

Author:  SierraDan [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 8:54 am ]
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Locked rear in sand is awesome. Twin locked with a welded front in sand sucks.

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:22 am ]
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Rusho wrote:
SierraDan wrote:
Yes. and you'll want chromo's otherwise you'll be snapping CV's all the time


Not going to happen....'fully sick COILY' user name :wink:

Yes and suck it and see. I have a spare set of cv's :mrgreen:


what do you mean by this?

Author:  SierraDan [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:38 am ]
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Coily's have different size/length axles. You can't run off the shelf chromos.

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:55 pm ]
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What about rear diff centre

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:39 pm ]
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Rear diff will hold up fine with a welded/spool carrier

Author:  stockman [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:44 pm ]
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Welded rear is fine, but welded front is ghey (could suit the car well).

Author:  abclarke [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:19 pm ]
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stockman wrote:
Welded rear is fine, but welded front is ghey (could suit the car well).


:lol: Armsup

Author:  SierraDan [ Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:54 pm ]
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stockman wrote:
Welded rear is fine, but welded front is for real men

Fixed it for you :thefinger:

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: welded front diff

so yes or no?
the only reason i ask how they go on the sand is because i launch my boat every weekend (on the sand)

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: welded front diff

A welded front will suck on the sand and require chromo cv's and axles in a sierra. A welded rear will be fine.

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:14 am ]
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how will it act on the road?

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:16 am ]
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On the road it will suck on low speed corners and car parks with a welded rear, but thats what you get for being a cheap skate. Spend a bit more on an auto locker and it won't be so bad on road.

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:25 am ]
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how much are auto lockers?
will they fit a coily?
any recomended brands?

thanks

Author:  Rusho [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:41 am ]
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fully sick coily wrote:
how much are auto lockers?
will they fit a coily?
any recomended brands?

thanks


The only option for a front lokka in a coily is welded... :cry: I can't imagine you busting axles and cv's in the sand

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:43 am ]
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Not sure what fit's a coily rear (that sounds so ghey), but Rusho should be able to enlighten us with his wisdom.

Author:  Rusho [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:50 am ]
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GRPABT1 wrote:
Not sure what fit's a coily rear (that sounds so ghey), but Rusho should be able to enlighten us with his wisdom.


Wisdom.... :rofl: :rofl: AFAIK the rear coily diff accepts everything that a leafy does. I will also add that your axels and cv's SHOULD be ok in the sand as long as you don't drive like a knob head.

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:24 am ]
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But locked on the sand heavy steering will still make it a pain in the arse I reckon, key to sand driving is momentum and that's hard to keep up whilst turning and avoiding obstacles etc with a locked front.

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:48 am ]
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any good brands of auto lockers
for my rear diff

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:56 am ]
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Welded front diffs suck immensely under all conditions.
Auto lockers suck a little bit in the rear. Spartan seem OK?

Steve

Author:  GRPABT1 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:58 am ]
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4wd systems lokka brand is what I went with when I bought one cause they have a decent warranty and still cheap.

Author:  fully sick coily [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:07 am ]
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how much is "cheap"

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:41 pm ]
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www.lowrangeoffroad.com

Author:  SierraDan [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:25 pm ]
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Gwagensteve wrote:
Auto lockers suck a little bit in the rear. Spartan seem OK?

Steve

I barely know my Spartan is there and it has been faultless.

Author:  Shift [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 4:56 pm ]
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As another opinion I think welded front on the sand is no worse then a welded front on any other surface. I've done a dozen beach trips now with mine welded and I have no issues with steering. Really it only badly affects steering when your barely moving, but even that isn't as heavy as when on dirt or most other 4WD surfaces. I'll also mention that I haven't snapped any cvs or axles yet, and its wrong to assume a welded front diff will result in snapping them every other trip out. Your driving style and what you drive will have the most effect on that.

Author:  christover1 [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 5:01 pm ]
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Shift wrote:
As another opinion I think welded front on the sand is no worse then a welded front on any other surface. I've done a dozen beach trips now with mine welded and I have no issues with steering. Really it only badly affects steering when your barely moving, but even that isn't as heavy as when on dirt or most other 4WD surfaces. I'll also mention that I haven't snapped any cvs or axles yet, and its wrong to assume a welded front diff will result in snapping them every other trip out. Your driving style and what you drive will have the most effect on that.



X2.

I ran welded both ends in my Sierra for around 10 years.
Was fine.
But after lucking out on a cheap lock rite for the front, I was much happier.
Welded rear stayed for life of the Sierra.

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