^^ Agreed, tooth count or GTFO.
Might avoid me getting on my usual 4.09/4.11 high horse.
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| Author: | losfer [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
PLEASE NOTE : SOME OF THE DIFF RATIOS ARE INCORRECT IF IN DOUBT PLEASE COUNT YOUR CROWNWHEEL AND PINION TEETH IF SOURCING ANOTHER DIFF CENTRE. I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT SOME DIFF RATIOS IN PARTICULAR IN OTHER MARKETS ARE DIFFERENT TO AUSTRALIAN DELIVERED SUZUKI. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TABLE ON BIGJIMNY THEY LIST RATIOS FOR THE EUROPEAN MARKET (E02 MARKET CODE M13A NON VVT MT 3.909 AT 4.090) HERE IN THE AUSTRALIAN MARKET (E24)THE RATIOS IN PARTICULAR NON VVT M13A JIMNY THEY LIST THAT THE CROWNWHEEL AND PINION SET ARE THE SAME FOR MANUAL AND AUTO (27300-80880 4.09 RATIO) i am compiling a list of every diff ratio suzuki ever bought out in every car produced. hopefully this can be the resource of all resources for every suzuki ever made with help and input from the greater suzuki community that is not only auszookers , but from other forums. for instance there is a lot on confusion on diff ratios of jimny , even i get confused when ive wrecked jimny's with three diff ratio's which dont match what literature says they are supposed to be. if we can get all the accurate info in one thread with one list then this will be the greatest resource on earth without having to search through hundreds of google searches ! i will post a cut and paste from several already posted literature on the net , along with some that ive pulled from my experience . please feel free to correct any errors so we can update this list to be the most accurate on the internet . Suzuki LJ Suzuki LJ-10 5.667:1 3.013 / 1.714 Suzuki LJ-20 5.667:1 3.013 / 1.714 Suzuki LJ-50 4.88:1 3.012 / 1.714 Suzuki LJ-80 4.556:1 2.571 / 1.563 Suzuki SJ Suzuki SJ-410 SJ40 4.111:1 2.511 / 1.580 Suzuki SJ-413 SJ50 3.909 Suzuki SJ-413 SJ70 3.727:1 2.268 / 1.409 Suzuki SJ-413 SJ80 3.909 Suzuki Samurai Suzuki Samurai MIL carb. 45 cv 4.111:1 2.511 / 1.580 Suzuki Samurai 1.3 carb. 64 cv 3.909:1 2.268 / 1.409 Suzuki Samurai 1.3 69cv 3.727:1 2.268 / 1.409 Suzuki Samurai 1.3 80cv 3.416:1 2.268 / 1.409 Suzuki Samurai II, 1.3 80 cv (*) 3.909:1 2.123 / 1.320 Suzuki Samurai TD 62 cv 3.416:1 2.268 / 1.409 Suzuki Samurai D 64 cv 3.416:1 2.268 / 1.409 Suzuki Jimny Jimny 1.3 i. DOHC 82 cv 3.909 / 4.090:1 (4AT) 2.145 / 1.520 Jimny 1.3 i. SOHC 80 cv 3.909:1 2.145 / 1.520 ????? Jimny 1.3 V V T 84 cv 4.300:1 2.002 / 1.00 Jimny 1.5 TD K9K 65 cv 3.416:1 2.002 / 1.00 Jimny 1.5 DDiS K9K 266, 86 cv 3.416:1 2.002 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara Suzuki Vitara 1.6 8v. carburación. 5.125:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 1.6 8v. inyección. 5.125:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 1.6 16v. inyección. 4.875:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 1.8 inyección. (*) 5.125:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 2.0 V6 24v 4.625:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 2.0 12v 4.875:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 1.9 D 68 cv 5.125:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 1.9 TD 75 cv 4.875:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 1.9 TDi 90 cv 4.30:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 2.0 TDi 87 cv Mazda 4.30:1 - Suzuki Vitara 1.9 HDI 90 cv 4.30:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Vitara 2.0 HDI 87 cv 4.30:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Grand Vitara Suzuki Grand Vitara 1.6 i 96 cv 5.125:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.0 i 128 cv 4.875:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.5 i V6 144 cv 4.30:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki G Vitara 2.0 TD Mazda 87cv 4.30:1 1.861 / 1.00 Suzuki G Vitara 2.0 TD 8v 110cv 4.30:1 1.861 / 1.00 Suzuki G Vitara 2.0 HDI 16v 109cv 3.909:1 1.653 / 1.00 Suzuki G Vitara XL-7 2.0 HDI 109cv 3.909:1 1.653 / 1.00 Suzuki G Vitara XL-7 V6 2.7 173cv 4.30:1 1.816 / 1.00 Suzuki Grand Vitara 2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara 1.6 106 cv 4,625:1 (NO trae reductora) Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.0 i 140 cv 4,100:1 y Automático: 5,125:1 1,970:1 Suzuki Grand Vitara 1.9 TD 129 cv 4,300:1 1,970:1 Suzuki G Vitara 2.7 V6 2.7 185cv 4,300:1 Aut. y 3.583 manual. 1,970:1 Years....2 or 4 door...Engine type...Transmission...Axle ratio 89 2 1.3L carb. 5 speed man. 5.625 89-95 2 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.125 89-95 2 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625 91 4 1.6L TBI 5 speed man. 5.375 4dr. 2door is 5.125 91 4 1.6L TBI 3 speed auto 4.625 2 or 4dr. 91 samurai, 5sp 3.727 (refr) 92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125 92-98 4 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125 94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 5 speed man. 5.125 94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 3 speed auto 4.30 94-98 2 1.6L MPFI 4 speed auto 5.125 96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625 96-98 4 door 1.8l 16V DOHC MPFI manual or auto 5.125 jimny g13bb 4.09 m13 manual 4.3 m13 auto 4.09 sj80 - 3.9 APV GC416 - 5.375 cappucino - 3.7 baleno manual - 3.9 st90 - 5.142? gti swift - 4.1 swift cino 1.3 manual - 3.7 SQ625 - auto 4.875 manual 4.3 maruti alto - 3.9 jb/jt vitara 3dr 1.6 manual 4.625 3dr 2.4 manual 3.727 3dr 2.4 auto 5.125 5dr 2.0 manual 4.1 5dr 2.0 auto 5.125 5dr 2.4 jlx/ltd 5.125 5dr 3.2 v6 ltd 3.583 5dr 1.9 ddis 4.3 i realise some of the cut and pasted info is also doubled up in my written text , so if anything can be refined and info added for models i havent posted this would be great ! |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Baleno manual, Swift Gti, Swift Cino, and Alto are all FWD transaxle transmissions, without what we would regard as a usable differential for our purposes. SK410 Super Carry 5.125:1 |
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| Author: | Reubs [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
SJ413 Sierra 'Coily' 3.909:1 2.123 / 1.320 - http://nbs4x4club.com/forum/index.php?topic=15805.0 |
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| Author: | sideways [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Awesome gearing table (and other info) for Sierras and LJs. http://www.4x4.in.th/specification.html Note the SJ30 has a 1.741 high and 3.052 low. I don't suppose you have the tooth counts of these 303? Also, JA71 rear is 1l sized. AFIAK it gives the lowest ratio you can get for 6.5" diffs. Another interesting observation is that the JDM Sierras have a crawl ratio similar to that of a WT with 4.16s. |
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| Author: | got_bar_work [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 5:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
303zuke wrote: Baleno manual, Swift Gti, Swift Cino, and Alto are all FWD transaxle transmissions, without what we would regard as a usable differential for our purposes. SK410 Super Carry 5.125:1 Unless making a buggy Some Xl7 come with 5.12 X90 can be 4.8 or 4.6 I think |
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| Author: | UBZ [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 6:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
SJ413 = 3.909 diff ratio lj10/lj20 centres are smaller and not interchangeable with later Lj50/lj80/410 / maruti diffs Lj10/20/50/80(mark1)/81 all have 22spline side gears front and rear LJ80(mark2) and sj410 has 26 spline side gears in the rear 26spline side gears only fit in the Lj80(mark2) or 410 carrier which can be swapped into the earlier lj50/80/81 diffs lock right 1510 works with either lj80(mark2) or 410 26spline side gears. Lj80 and earlier side gears have a square tooth profile sj410 side gears have a rounded tooth profile . |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sat Feb 01, 2014 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Great thread losfer. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 6:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
got_bar_work wrote: 303zuke wrote: Baleno manual, Swift Gti, Swift Cino, and Alto are all FWD transaxle transmissions, without what we would regard as a usable differential for our purposes. Unless making a buggy x2, it is useful info and interesting! |
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| Author: | pyrohamish [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Can we add tooth counts? Makes it easier when sussing it out. |
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| Author: | mnemonix [ Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
^^ Agreed, tooth count or GTFO. Might avoid me getting on my usual 4.09/4.11 high horse.
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| Author: | oldvanman [ Sat May 17, 2014 4:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
losfer wrote: i am compiling a list of every diff ratio suzuki ever bought out in every car produced. hopefully this can be the resource of all resources for every suzuki ever made with help and input from the greater suzuki community that is not only auszookers , but from other forums. for instance there is a lot on confusion on diff ratios of jimny , even i get confused when ive wrecked jimny's with three diff ratio's which dont match what literature says they are supposed to be. Suzuki Jimny Jimny 1.3 i. DOHC 82 cv 3.909 / 4.090:1 (4AT) 2.145 / 1.520 Jimny 1.3 i. SOHC 80 cv 3.909:1 2.145 / 1.520 ????? Jimny 1.3 V V T 84 cv 4.300:1 2.002 / 1.00 Jimny 1.5 TD K9K 65 cv 3.416:1 2.002 / 1.00 Jimny 1.5 DDiS K9K 266, 86 cv 3.416:1 2.002 / 1.00 jimny g13bb 4.09 m13 manual 4.3 m13 auto 4.09 Firstly I will add a couple... Holden Cruze AWD manual Final drive ratio std: 4.105 Holden Cruze AWD automatic Final drive ratio std: 4.361 (well it is made by Suzuki) Carry Truck Final drive ratio std: 4.555 Carry Van Final drive ratio std: 4.3 Now I have a question about Jimny's... I have a Carry Van with a G16B conversion which really needs gearing down a bit. I have been investigating a replacement diff centre and the 3.9 Jimny looks like it may be a swap over. I read that there is a different number of splines in the front and rear. The axles in a Carry van are 22 spline and 24mm diameter. How does that compare to Jimny axles? Regards |
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| Author: | jimbo_jones [ Sat Mar 14, 2015 11:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Is there any way I can get 3.9 diff gears to fit a 2000 Jimny? |
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| Author: | rexhunta [ Sat Dec 05, 2015 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
SJ50 N/T 3.909 tooth count 43 : 11 SJ70 W/t 3.727 tooth count 41 : 11 Vitara SWB Manual 5.12 41:8 ( just pulled diffs out of both cars to go vitara 5.12s. ) |
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| Author: | TommyG [ Fri Dec 18, 2020 10:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
[quote="losfer"] Suzuki Grand Vitara 2.5 i V6 144 cv 4.30:1 1.816 / 1.00 /quote] I've read elsewhere online that only the manual transmission 2.5L v6 has a 4.30 ratio, and that the auto has a 4.88 ratio. Is anyone able to confirm or deny this?? |
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| Author: | suzukitas [ Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
that is correct. 98-05 sq625 manual is 4.3 ratio sq625 auto in 4.875 ratio |
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| Author: | losfer [ Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
I will be editing the first post to update some errors, ill make the announcement in red at the top of the post. |
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| Author: | MrRocky [ Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Maruti lwb also 4.1 but it would seem that the nt maruti has the smaller front sidegears (1ltr size) in the center ? Is anyone with a nt maruti able to confirm |
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| Author: | losfer [ Tue May 11, 2021 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
MrRocky wrote: Maruti lwb also 4.1 but it would seem that the nt maruti has the smaller front sidegears (1ltr size) in the center ? Is anyone with a nt maruti able to confirm no i believe the side gears are the same spline. |
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| Author: | losfer [ Tue May 11, 2021 7:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: comprehensive no bullshit diff ratio thread |
Ok so this is bothering me. Jimny rear diff centre ratios. When i look up every Jimny on https://catalogs.ssg.asia/suzuki/?lang=en everything pre 2005 is coming up with the same part number for both auto and manual for the crownwheel and pinion. so according to my parts list everything pre 2005 (g13bb and m13a non vvt)(sn413v-sn413v4) is part number 27300-80880 which is 4.09 ratio for both auto and manual transmissions. m13a (sn413v5 to sn413v9)vvt jimny is coming up with 3.9 for manual part number 27300-56800 and 4.09 for auto part number 27300-80880. help!!! |
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