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Author:  CairnsZook [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 11:27 am ]
Post subject:  Power steer install

I thought I'd finally get around to bolting this in...

Vitara power steering pump and box will be used with a BenT adaptor kit.
I started with the pump.

Here's the mount adaptor that comes in BenT's kit. It's bolted to a G16B.
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And here's the pump bolted to the adaptor:
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All good, but doesn't leave room for my A/C compressor :(



Then I thought, I've got a Vitara (Baleno) engine, so this Vitara pump should bolt straight on :P
And it does! I will have to modify the passenger side radiator mount to clear the pulley. I'll do that when I have the radiator out next weekend.

Here's the pump mounted low on the block. I've removed the pulley for the time being, but it lines up perfectly. Notice I've flipped the adaptor plate. That will be used to mount the A/C bracket.
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A/C bracket bolted to adaptor plate:
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Reckon I've got enough compressors? :lol:
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Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

With the pump down low (in the org pos) when the eng move's, the pull WILL hit the rad bracket & shed your belt.....

Author:  birko [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

jeez, i thought my engine bay was full of stuff. Does the p/steer and aircon run of 1 shared belt on the baleno/vitara? Ive found that with my baleno motor i mounted the pump on the adaptor bracket, it just lightly touches the overflow bottle at the full stretch of the engine mounts but nothing major

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 7:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Don't worry Stekky, I'll cut enough out so it doesn't hit :wink:

Yes Birko, that's exactly what I'm going to do. I think the overflow bottle is clear, if not, it's easy to move anyway.


Looks like I've found a ribbed pulley too :D
Can anyone tell me how to get the old one off the compressor? I've undone the bolt on the front, but it won't budge...

Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

CairnsZook wrote:
Don't worry Stekky, I'll cut enough out so it doesn't hit :wink:



:helloo: I thought the same...........then on the first hill.... :roll:
spent the rest of the day strong arming the thing through G/H

Author:  birko [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Quote:
Can anyone tell me how to get the old one off the compressor? I've undone the bolt on the front, but it won't budge...


Maybe try 3 arm bearing puller? I use this for these kinda jobs

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 8:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

birko wrote:
Quote:
Can anyone tell me how to get the old one off the compressor? I've undone the bolt on the front, but it won't budge...


Maybe try 3 arm bearing puller? I use this for these kinda jobs


I have. All it did was bend the v-pulley :?

Author:  JrZook [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 10:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Well I think the only solution then is to remove all AC bits, pack em in a box and send them to me Armsup

Author:  Brenno [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Hey dave, I think the pump I have is Jimny as I think my brother sold the sierra one with his car when Gricey bought it. may still work?

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Does it look like mine Brenno? I seem to remember yours being a little smaller maybe?
Even so, it should still work, it's not as if we need ice cold A/C in Tassie anyway :lol:

Dan, you only just missed out. Would have been free for you too :| :arrow: :finger:

Author:  CairnsZook [ Wed Oct 05, 2011 12:51 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

So, a week later, and it's all done, well pretty much...

Ben-T adaptor plate on:
And if anyone is wondering, the gold square metal section that comes with the kit is a spacer for the radiator bracket. (Not installed yet in pic)
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The Vit steering box is a little longer than the Sierra one. I had to shorten the steering shaft, which was easy enough.
I also had to remove my bulbar and grind out a section. Not really a worry, but just a pain in the arse as it doesn't come off easy!

Vit steering box installed:
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I've used the stock Vit hydraulic lines for now. I'll get some flexible custom lines made up as these hang down below the splash guard.


Not 5 minutes after finishing the install, I got a call from some mates who were bogged out at Hollybank. The test-run was pretty good :D

The steering is (obviously) lighter than before, but also feels quite different. Slower, to a point, then it feels quicker??
Maybe the fact that I have now removed the sway bar and steering dampener has something to do with that :lol:

Author:  CairnsZook [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Here's the new lines made up.
I took the originals to Enzed and told them the length I required.
The tape is about 1m long.
The high pressure line retains the original fit fittings, just attached to a flexible hose.
Low pressure lines are 1200mm and 450mm. Lengths will depend on where you fit your fluid reservoir.

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Author:  JrZook [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

^^^$?

Author:  CairnsZook [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

About $150 :?

But that included the awesome hose-clamps too (pity I broke one when I tightened it too much).
It might be cheaper to go to an actual power steering place...

Author:  Brenno [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

CairnsZook wrote:
About $150 :?

But that included the awesome hose-clamps too (pity I broke one when I tightened it too much).
It might be cheaper to go to an actual power steering place...


Yeah rookie mistake - I go to onsite hydraulics down here in Hobart. $70 for a full new line, Enzed were going to charge $90 to do a 10cm section on rubber line, or $150 for a complete new one. The Onsite item was rubber hose so it was easy to route.

Author:  mcwilly [ Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

So the kit is a direct bolt on no major modifications required?

Author:  31zook [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

CairnsZook wrote:
About $150 :?

But that included the awesome hose-clamps too (pity I broke one when I tightened it too much).
It might be cheaper to go to an actual power steering place...


thats cheap! i paid $290 if that makes you feel any better....

Author:  CairnsZook [ Sun Dec 04, 2011 2:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

mcwilly wrote:
So the kit is a direct bolt on no major modifications required?


Yep, unless you have A/C, then you might have to move some stuff around.

Author:  shep [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Is the Sierra pitman used on the vitara steering box?

Author:  birko [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Nope, vitara arm

Author:  HarryHoudini [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:03 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

..you couldn't post the actual length of the hose on the high pressure fittings by any chance,having trouble lining it up on the tape.TIA.

Author:  shep [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Does anyone make a drop pitman for a vitara steering box? Or will my Sierra pitman fit the vitara box?

Author:  Damo [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

shep wrote:
Does anyone make a drop pitman for a vitara steering box? Or will my Sierra pitman fit the vitara box?


Sierra pitman wont fit. I have one off a Tarago on my Vit box. Have a look on the shitbox you've been thrashing around, the pitman on that will probably fit Armsup

Author:  tanshi [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

lowrange have one for a vit box too dont they

Author:  shep [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 5:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

tanshi wrote:
lowrange have one for a vit box too dont they



I am sure I saw one there a year or four ago but there is only one for a Sierra box now.



Damo wrote:
shep wrote:
Does anyone make a drop pitman for a vitara steering box? Or will my Sierra pitman fit the vitara box?


Sierra pitman wont fit. I have one off a Tarago on my Vit box. Have a look on the shitbox you've been thrashing around, the pitman on that will probably fit Armsup


How convenient Armsup

Author:  Joe [ Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Hey Shep :)

http://www.puresuzuki.com/kick_pitman_arm.htm

Author:  shep [ Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Thanks joe.

Author:  Wazz [ Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

Acouple of q's.

Did you have to bend the metal sections of the vit high pressure hose or are they untouched.

Also where did you place the resivour?

thanks.

Author:  SierraDan [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

What do people do with the passenger side radiator mount now that the drivers side is spaced across?

Author:  SierraDan [ Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Power steer install

And the fan now offset..

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