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Author:  christover1 [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:41 am ]
Post subject:  Sierra SPARTAN Locker into Vitara front SUCCESS

Powertrax Lock Rite locker.
I'm told by many that the locker for Sierra front and Vitara front are interchangeable, yet the part numbers are different. Can anyone shed light on this for me?
Thanks
christover

Author:  joeblow [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

dimensionally they are the same, but some vits have 26 spline, and some sierras have a 4 pinion front.

Author:  christover1 [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

thanks joe :youdaman:

I best use a Sierra carrier in my diff if I want easier to get lock right.
Mine should be 22 spline, but I haven't checked

Author:  joeblow [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

what year model? if its pre 95 it should be 22.

Author:  christover1 [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

joeblow wrote:
what year model? if its pre 95 it should be 22.


93 lwb efi

Author:  christover1 [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeable?

more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeable?

christover1 wrote:
more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html


That's prrrdy.

I used a vit 26 spline front hemisphere & turned it into a sierra rear last week.. :P

Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeable?

christover1 wrote:
more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html


Thats what I've got, yet to fit it though.

Cheaper buying it from Trail Tough directly:
http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53

Linda who runs it has shit hot customer service. Highly recommended.

Author:  got_bar_work [ Sun Jun 13, 2010 1:45 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

u can use a sierra rear hemishphere and get some 26 spline axel out of a 2l if u want

Author:  christover1 [ Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

ninjamoses wrote:
christover1 wrote:
more expensive choice, but a choice still

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ystem.html


Thats what I've got, yet to fit it though.

Cheaper buying it from Trail Tough directly:
http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53

Linda who runs it has shit hot customer service. Highly recommended.

Cool thats a good saving, assuming delivery isn't dearer.
Because I don't have a Sierra centre, using that is a good option. I assume they didn't want the core back.
What did it cost you total, and how long did delivery take?
PM if you wish.
cheers
christover

Author:  ninjamoses [ Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:33 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

$518 US for the front and rear lockers ($209 rear, $309 front).
$110.75 US for express international shipping.

And nah they said not to worry about sending my core back :)

The exchange rate at the time I bought em meant I got both front and rear landed for just under $700AU. Delivery was quick, only took a few days from memory.

Author:  christover1 [ Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeabl

ninjamoses wrote:
$518 US for the front and rear lockers ($209 rear, $309 front).
$110.75 US for express international shipping.

And nah they said not to worry about sending my core back :)

The exchange rate at the time I bought em meant I got both front and rear landed for just under $700AU. Delivery was quick, only took a few days from memory.


Thanks, I'm starting to lean in this direction.

Author:  neofitou [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeable?

Hey Chris, let me know when your doing your order, perhaps we can combine shipping. I too want a front locker and am selling my road tires to pay for it (I hope)

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeable?

neofitou wrote:
Hey Chris, let me know when your doing your order, perhaps we can combine shipping. I too want a front locker and am selling my road tires to pay for it (I hope)


I need to sell some stuff to pay for a locker, too.
If timing works out, group buy may help

Author:  christover1 [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite Sierra and Vitara front are they interchangeable?

I been playing with spare diff bits.
Found out the Vit pinion housing uses 2 locater bolts, that are too long for Sierra housing.
Just used two Sierra studs, think I should have room to fit diff under car.
I can't see any grinding needed if I use the Vitara carrier,
I'm assuming thats only needed when using a sierra carrier???
Not got a 1.3 to compare, see pix.

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Author:  neofitou [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

did you get another vitara housing or have you just pulled apart your perfectly good diff from your only running car for fun? 8O

Author:  christover1 [ Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

neofitou wrote:
did you get another vitara housing or have you just pulled apart your perfectly good diff from your only running car for fun? 8O


I scrounged up a spare, which is very cool, as now I can get everything right, before pulling out the working front diff. Though making a mount may be better with diff out of car.

I could drive the car with front diff out if needed, but will avoid that, as dont want crud getting into axle housing etc.

Author:  christover1 [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

I need to learn to listen with my good ear, or at least with my brain switched on.
Its a bit of the steel Sierra diff that needs grinding, not the Vit alloy case :roll:
It became obvious after trying to insert assembly to measure for making a mount.
If I sell enough stuff this weekend, will wait for a locker before assembly.
If not will assemble with open alloy diff while I save.
PS Don't pull a Vitara front tailshaft out, without draining transfer case first...its not a Sierra...what a mess :oops:

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Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

Christover, i'm not sure if you've seen these photo's around the traps but they might give you another idea. the "collar" would work better with the sierra carrier, where as the "strap" would work if you were running the vitara carrier.

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Author:  christover1 [ Fri Jun 18, 2010 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

Thanks heaps, I have been looking for them pix.
That is the sort of thing I got in mind.

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 6:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

After mucking round for days, not really finding any set up that I liked, and making the sierra diff too thin at the point where it hits the crossmember, I have decided to wait for a full steel diff, so I am putting back the old alloy diff and will start saving for a steely and do it properly, and add a locker at same time.
I don't feel I've wasted my time, though, as I have learnt a lot about the Vit in this process, which will make it a smoother job when I do go steel, and is a bonus knowing the car when in the bush.
I managed to lean on the angle grinder while it was still turning :oops:

Author:  neofitou [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

You gotta stop hurting yourself in the shed Chris!

My tires didn't sell so I'm not getting my locker this week either

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

neofitou wrote:
You gotta stop hurting yourself in the shed Chris!

My tires didn't sell so I'm not getting my locker this week either

All the peeps that said they were coming to buy stuff on weekend never showed up, so my locker plans on hold too :(

close call, me very lucky

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Author:  redzook91 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

christover1 wrote:
neofitou wrote:
You gotta stop hurting yourself in the shed Chris!

My tires didn't sell so I'm not getting my locker this week either

All the peeps that said they were coming to buy stuff on weekend never showed up, so my locker plans on hold too :(

close call, me very lucky

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They may not have showed up but that's no reason to get depressed! 8O remember - down the road, not across the street :P

Spray it with WD, that fixes everything...

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

It does look like that doesn't it.......I will try to look at the positive side :)

Author:  Joe [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

8O :lol:
Your pretty lucky mate that could of been nasty

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

joseph wrote:
8O :lol:
Your pretty lucky mate that could of been nasty

Yes, it gave me a scare.
Working too long in cold, damp and dark, stopped thinking for a second, thats all it takes.

Author:  joeblow [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

if you are not in a huge hurry....bring the diff over to me and i will machine you a collar like a mother 8O .......ummm........you would not believe... :wink:


oh...and atari....why is there a dodgy arsed weld blurred out in one of your pics?

Author:  christover1 [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

joeblow wrote:
if you are not in a huge hurry....bring the diff over to me and i will machine you a collar like a mother 8O .......ummm........you would not believe... :wink:


Thanks Mate :youdaman: .. but I grinded too much off the diff, as well as my arm :)
Its a paper weight now.
I wasn't happy with alignment, it was hard up against the cross member.
Removing enough of the diff to have it sit true, made a hole in it :oops:
I had no intention of cutting or messing with the cross member, as its part of suspension.
I have a maybe xl7 front coming, so I will wait n see if it does eventuate.
May revisit the sierra idea if nothing happens.
Or collar and strap the alloy diff, to help stop explosion

Author:  steak_knife [ Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: lockrite into steel Sierra diff into Vitara

Xl7's are different to Gv. Hence different to Vit.

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