[zukenutter]

Of the three ATs that have failed with M18, did any of them have corrected gearing for bigger tyres?

[nordom]

well, i can speak for myself mostly, still didn't get all the details from other owners.
All three ATs gave P0752 error and switched to alarm mode (only 3-rd gear).
One guy disassembled his AT and found friction clutches to be burned. I'm going to disassemble my previous one and rebuild it with some reinforcement (maybe, more friction clutches, and reinfored accumulators).
It's quite cold here now (around minus 10-15 celsius), so usually my temperature on the exit from AT is about 70-80 celsius in 4WD-H, and about 95, when revving, but in common condition on 4-th gear, blocked it's about 75. So it's not a temperature issue, definatelly, more of a torque one, high temperature issue begins when friction clutches begin to slip and burn oil and itselfs, IMO.
I'm running sammy t-case with 4.16 kit and 30.5 winter wheels. My previous AT has been burned on 30" MT onroad use with stock post-2006 AT chained T-case, others used quite same configs, but i'll check.

[Jazzor]

Thanks for the reply, those temps do sound quite reasonable. ~10-20 degrees lower than mine doing similar things. The ambient temp must help .

Be interested to see what you find.

Cheers!

[mdrisc]

Hey all, currently doing the M13A NON VVT to M15A NON VVT conversion in my 2004 Jim. Just a quick shout out to anyone that has done this specific conversion is there any hiccups I should look out for or tips that hasn't been mentioned? And from what I can tell it's OK to use the M15A injectors and rail?

Appreciate it everyone.
Cheers
Martin

[zukenutter]

Loosen all the bell housing bolts first, they usually seize and if you can't get one and have already pulled everything else apart you'll be stuck without transport

[mdrisc]

Thanks bud, the two on the exhaust side were fairly ok after a night soaked in WD40. Just about to hit the other two now

[zukenutter]

The two above the starter motor are usually the most fun

[Jazzor]

I used the M15a injectors, everything else was from the M13a (the m15a fuel regulator on the rail? was completely different so I couldn't use that). Swap over everything from the m13a onto the m15a, I don't think I used any other m15a stuff, it was all slightly different.

[mdrisc]

Cheers zukenutter and Jazzor, I realised the rail is no good anyway. Changing everything over at the moment.

[dougies_tx5turbo]

Whats the go with the egr on m18vvt it is blanked off.
Would it be a good idea to leave it like this with no egr or put the jimny one on?
What effects would this cause when running in a stock jimny ecu?
Would I get any performance gain?
would it effect fuel efficiency?
And why doesnt the liana run an egr

[zukenutter]

I removed the blanking plate and installed the Jimny EGR. No answer for your other questions though, sorry.

[Troubl3]

Ive been reading this thread a lot the last few weeks as i have just bought and m18a to go in my jimny. My question is should i use the jimny flywheel and buy a new clutch or should i use the liana flywheel and buy a clutch to suit. Either way i require a new clutch. looking for any pros and cons please.

[zukenutter]

I was going to use the Liana flywheel for better engine balance/smoothness at highway speed but the Jimny pressure plate I had was too small to match up so I just went Jimny clutch and flywheel.

I'm pretty sure everybody has just used Jimny clutch/flywheel. When my clutch eventually dies I'll swap in the Liana flywheel and some sort of aftermarket Liana clutch. My Jimny clutch has been trouble and slip free except for when I tow our camper trailer in soft sand.

[Troubl3]

Thanks zukenutter. Just wasnt sure if it was worth swapping the fly wheel over when either way im going to buy a new clutch. ive found the lian HD clutch has 520kg clamp load while the jimny HD clutch is 550kg.
Not sure if you can fill me in any further on the difference

[zukenutter]

Liana is larger so I figure more friction area, heavier flywheel = smoother running and better highway economy. The downside is less responsive but that doesn't worry me for my usage.

[JayKay]

Today I installed the M18a Inlet Manifold.

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This is a test fit of a T piece for the vacuum hubs which worked a treat.

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Initial drive I had some erratic idling then calmed down, its made a noticeable difference, Jimny seems more responsive.

[zukenutter]

[zukenutter]

M Flywheels

I dropped my Liana flywheel off today for machining while getting some brake drums done. Thought I'd get some comparison shots between Liana 1.8 and Jimny 1.3.

Jimny on left, pressure plate threaded holes and dowels are positioned differently. Liana is closer to the outer edge of the flywheel



Liana on left, The Liana flywheel is thicker and the friction surface is raised whereas Jimny is recessed



Liana on left, pressure plate threaded holes and dowels are positioned differently, Jimny dowels are close to the threaded holes, Liana dowels are half way between the threaded holes. Liana holes are also closer to the outer edge of the flywheel

[Bondie_Beach]

Hey,
has anyone tried using a Liana clutch and flywheel? will it match up the the gearbox and does it grip to well for the drive train?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SUZUKI-BALEN ... SwNSxVG1uW

Exedy sell an after market clutch for a reasonable price and i would like the heavier flywheel for off-road

[zukenutter]

As far as I know nobody has used a Liana clutch/flywheel when doing this swap. As you can see in the post previous to yours I've started prepping towards installing Liana clutch/flywheel. The flywheel should not cause any clearance issues and I would imagine that the pressure plate will also fit in the Jimny bell housing. Only thing I haven't checked yet is the clutch spline compatibility with the Jimny gearbox input shaft spline.

I tow regularly through soft sand and find that I get unnoticeable clutch slip if I don't baby the load pedal, the Jimny pressure plate just can't seem to clamp down tight enough in this circumstance. On road and low range bush work is fine. I could just go HD Jimny clutch but I want the heavier flywheel, mainly for smoother highway cruising. As for the Liana clutch, I'm a bit worried that a stock unit may still have some slip so will consider searching for a unit that is upraised.

[ShamiqSaeed]

Fellow from Pakistan here guys, Ive been meaning to do a swap in my NON-VVT M13A swift as thats the only engine we got for it here. Ive been wanting to put the M18a in there but am I correct in saying that i cant replace a NON VVT M13a with a VVT m18a(m18 comes with VVT only? As thats the only one I could find)? If yes then why is that? Because I can source the M18A ECU wiring engine and transmission.

Help would be appreciated

[Rhinoman]

In a Swift, you can use the VVT engine as long as you use the ECU from the donor and adapt the wiring.

[ShamiqSaeed]

So if I have the m18a and its own ECU, it should be a straightforward job? By "adapt the wiring" you mean the wiring for the MAF IAT sensors and such? Because an M18 off a liana has a different air box then that in a m13, different positions for sensors.
And what about immobiliser issues?

[Rhinoman]

What type of immobiliser do you have? if its built into the ECU then you need the immo box and key for the M18A ECU

[ShamiqSaeed]

That im not sure about. How can i check? But im pretty sure its built into the ECU, if so then is it not possible to bypass it or replace the immobiliser IC in the M18 ECU with that from my current M13 ECU?
Ive also heard that the CAN-BUS system for our M13s dont match up with the M18 VVT, the crux of my question being that do all ancillary sensors and sub-dependent systems from a NON VVT M13 work with a swapped VVT M18 and ECU?

[ShamiqSaeed]

Im sorry Im hammering you with so many questions

[Rhinoman]

What year is your Swift? are you sure that it has CANBus?

[ShamiqSaeed]

I have the 04-10 model. Although we got that in 2010 in Pakistan

[zukebob]

I'm taking a long shot that someone here can help a neighbor across the water (expat in the Philippines). After finding some new information, I am modifying my post slightly but most of it will remain unchanged from the original.

I just purchased a Jimny and have been looking at potential improvements. The only available engine upgrade here would be using an M16a. It provides enough of a power and torque increase to make the effort worth it.

The thing I want to ask is about the effect of the increased power and torque on automatic transmissions. I have the auto and there were earlier comments about damage but I haven't seen any recent feedback on this or other forums. As I don't plan on doing a lot of component swapping beyond the engine, any updates on this is really appreciated.

Thanks for any help that you can provide.

[jimbo.jones]

just wanted to say a huge thanks to everyone who's contributed their experience and knowledge to this thread..have just completed m18a swap into my 2008 jimny and referred to this guide heavily.. just need a m18a crew sticker to rep proper.. cheers again everybody