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SiKiD_01
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 261 Location: Darwin, N.T
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christover1 wrote: Think I will make one of these, I have enough parts. And then get one of the poly bushes. thats a solution just within buget and abilities. 
thats the 1st one i made for my green vit.
i made 3 more after that one. the 1st one i broke the splined end off in the diff centre. maybe too much heat when welded. what a PITA to get the broken peice out with our removing the diff.
2nd one cracked the weld/stub cos it was too long and the cv punched it. i made this slightly longer to clear the diff mount bolts.
3rd one broke cos i was giving it curry and there was really no support for the sub.
vit mods have come a long way since my green one.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 10:50 am |
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Thanks for that.
Was concerned about the length issues you mentioned.
I'll make it as short as possible, ie just enough room for the weld.
I'm getting it welded up buy an experienced welder.
So hopefuly they get it right first up.
I'm going to use a flat head/allen key type bolt in the lower diff mount.
I noticed today that the passenger side is longer, so not much room for error.
Are you glad, or regret doing this mod?
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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PS thinking the axle support bush should help
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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SiKiD_01 wrote: thats the 1st one i made for my green vit.
i made 3 more after that one. the 1st one i broke the splined end off in the diff centre. maybe too much heat when welded. what a PITA to get the broken peice out with our removing the diff.
2nd one cracked the weld/stub cos it was too long and the cv punched it. i made this slightly longer to clear the diff mount bolts.
3rd one broke cos i was giving it curry and there was really no support for the sub.
Does anyone else have any experience or input on this mod,
was it worth it, problems encountered, or just opinions.
IE I getting nervous 
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zuk94
Joined: Sat Sep 13, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 193 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: 94 Vitara LWB
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Quote: Does anyone else have any experience or input on this mod, was it worth it, problems encountered, or just opinions. IE I getting nervous 
No advice yet as I'm watching this thread for the out come . When I do mine I'll get someone else who knows what there doing to weld it.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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zuk94 wrote: Quote: Does anyone else have any experience or input on this mod, was it worth it, problems encountered, or just opinions. IE I getting nervous  No advice yet as I'm watching this thread for the out come . When I do mine I'll get someone else who knows what there doing to weld it.
I agree, I am still waiting for a mate, but will probably take it to an axle/tailshaft person to weld it. Cos I'm impatient.
I am going to make 2, so I can have a spare, just in case.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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i need to pull my finger out & rip the front diff out of mine to fit the bearing carrier & stub axle that Polar_Bear had machined up.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: i need to pull my finger out & rip the front diff out of mine to fit the bearing carrier & stub axle that Polar_Bear had machined up.
Life, the universe and everything,
seems to get in the way of whats important.
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broken cv may encourage you, it did me 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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I've decided to pay an expert to cut and weld my stubby together.
Not worth the risk of me doing it.
Especially don't want a failure out in the desert.
They going to turn down the cup, lathe a locating lip into the flange bit, so it will centre properley, then weld it up, and " anneal " it, which I think means re harden?
Got a fair price for all thgat work, bit costly, but cheaper than having a complete stubby made, and bearing carrier etc.
Only having one made, due to price, and still needing to pay bills and eat
Shouldn't need a spare if it works right, and if it dont, then no point in having a spare yet..
Can do that another time if think its wise.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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christover1 wrote: I've decided to pay an expert to cut and weld my stubby together. Not worth the risk of me doing it. Especially don't want a failure out in the desert. They going to turn down the cup, lathe a locating lip into the flange bit, so it will centre properley, then weld it up, and " anneal " it, which I think means re harden?Got a fair price for all thgat work, bit costly, but cheaper than having a complete stubby made, and bearing carrier etc. Only having one made, due to price, and still needing to pay bills and eat  Shouldn't need a spare if it works right, and if it dont, then no point in having a spare yet.. Can do that another time if think its wise.
Generally when you anneal a metal you make it softer and easier to work.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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ok that makes more sense in the way he said it.
So I assume anneal, then lathe/weld,
then hopefuly harden it again after?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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yep, that's the process.... anneal, then re-harden.
how much do they want to do the cut/weld etc?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: yep, that's the process.... anneal, then re-harden.
how much do they want to do the cut/weld etc?
$250 + tax
Sounded a bit dear, till he explained what he would do,
then it sounded like a bloody good deal.
Now to raise the money.
Anyone want to buy my Mum 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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nah, ya mum's useless to me.... i've got one already.
i think polar_bear paid $600 to get the 2 complete bearing carriers machined, stub axles annealed, chopped, resplined & rehardened including the bearing, circlip & seal.
p.s. polar_bear i'll be up your way on the weekend, do you want me do drop in & give you the cash or are you're working tomorrow?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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atari4x4 wrote: nah, ya mum's useless to me.... i've got one already.  i think polar_bear paid $600 to get the 2 complete bearing carriers machined, stub axles annealed, chopped, resplined & rehardened including the bearing, circlip & seal.
Thats a real good deal.
Unlikely to be able to match that here.
I guess the bonus for me is can do this job with diff still in the car 
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Chop

az supporter
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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christover1 wrote: atari4x4 wrote: nah, ya mum's useless to me.... i've got one already.  i think polar_bear paid $600 to get the 2 complete bearing carriers machined, stub axles annealed, chopped, resplined & rehardened including the bearing, circlip & seal. Thats a real good deal. Unlikely to be able to match that here. I guess the bonus for me is can do this job with diff still in the car 
Yeah but how quick is the turn around on yours? I reckon it was year for these two to get done 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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yeah it did take a while, i think it was about 7-8 months... 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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They said "when do you want it."
I said "I can't pay till thursday."
They think it will be done by then, barring any problems.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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now that's my sort of turn around time.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: now that's my sort of turn around time.
Yes I was pleased.
Couldn't be bothered leaving to shop around for better deals.
Felt confident with their attitudes and knowledge.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Driveline services are all over this thing day in day out, they will get it right 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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royce wrote: Driveline services are all over this thing day in day out, they will get it right 
cool  good to know
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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atari4x4 wrote: yeah it did take a while, i think it was about 7-8 months... 
Yeah, a mate of the old mans did the work for us, took a while to get done, but I was in no rush, and atari hasn't even fitted his after having it for 2 months, so its not as tho he was waiting on it either
he did the whole kit for 300 each, which I think is a good deal for the amount of work involved and supplying the bearing, seal and circlip.
now I think ataris making me wait 7-8 months for the cash 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 you home tomorrow?
hey i'm closer to fitting it than you... i have a complete running SWB... plus, i've got a brand new LHS CV sitting there, i did chase up some cap head screws today.
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Polar_Bear
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2511 Location: Adelaide SA
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atari4x4 wrote: :oops: you home tomorrow? nope atari4x4 wrote: i did chase up some cap head screws today.
i already got enough screws to do both of them 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Social Security approved my advance on the disability pension,
which is a relief, cos I took a gamble ordering the work on the stubby
sometimes Ya Win
Definately not a better choice than bearings and turned up stubbies,
but if it works out, I will be happy. 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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chris, i'd look at getting one of the bush's that bruce makes to support the stub axle.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: chris, i'd look at getting one of the bush's that bruce makes to support the stub axle.
Already done that, it's very well made, quite pleased with it. 
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christover1

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 12:35 am |
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Stubby axle is ready,
but now I have to wait for the money to go in bank.
Hate waiting  guess I'll have to.
Gives me some dvd rest time anyway lol.
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Dec 06, 2010 8:09 am |
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atari4x4 wrote: nah, ya mum's useless to me.... i've got one already.  i think polar_bear paid $600 to get the 2 complete bearing carriers machined, stub axles annealed, chopped, resplined & rehardened including the bearing, circlip & seal. p.s. polar_bear i'll be up your way on the weekend, do you want me do drop in & give you the cash or are you're working tomorrow?
i could have made that from new virgin material for that price!
seriously people, if you are heading down this path DONT cut and shut an axle.
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