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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:14 pm |
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Hi All,
Keeping with Zook tradition I have found a reasonable alternative(CHEAP) for a diff breather kit. It's all pretty and blue!! I know i'm probably takin the piss a bit, but it's cheap.
What I purchased & What it cost:-
*True Blue Garden Hose 15m x 12mm $19.99
*8 x Hose Clamp $1.42 each $ 11.36
*Black poly T Piece $0.91
*Black poly X Piece $2.18
*Mini Air Breather $14.99
TOTAL $ 49.43
The thought process is to have the rear diff, t'fer & box meet at the X piece and have one single hose run up the front were it will meet the front diff via the T piece. Then out of the T piece to the Mini Air Breather mounted nice and high on the fire wall.
I think it should turn out ok. What do you guys think?
I would like to thank the very kind people at Bunnings Warehouse & Super Cheap Auto, I don't know what I would do without them!!
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keechox
Joined: Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 242 Location: launceston Tasmania
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:24 pm |
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what time do bunnings close? im off to get some hose!!
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:30 pm |
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9pm tonight, super cheap already closed!!
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:34 pm |
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you have to drill and tap the gearbox to put a breather on it
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unique_seek
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 537 Location: Sunny Coast
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:37 pm |
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its cheaper if you buy the the air tubing like in ths kit http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Diff-Breather-Ki ... 286.c0.m14
and just plum it into your airboxs... pad $20 for around 20m.....ts real thin and really neat...
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:40 pm |
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unique_seek wrote: its cheaper if you buy the the air tubing like in ths kit http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Diff-Breather-Ki ... 286.c0.m14and just plum it into your airboxs... pad $20 for around 20m.....ts real thin and really neat...
I think the air box is a bad idea, negative pressure?
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Mike

lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:44 pm |
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you shouldn't hook everything up to one breather
have one for each diff then another for the gearbox and transfer
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unique_seek
Joined: Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 537 Location: Sunny Coast
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:45 pm |
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negatve pressure?? do explain....the breather in a diff/gearbox/transfer is to allow for expansion...
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:54 pm |
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Mike wrote: you have to drill and tap the gearbox to put a breather on it
Some considerate person has already done it for me
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:00 pm |
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Mike wrote: you have to drill and tap the gearbox to put a breather on it
No you don't.. Just remove the hat piece and then jam a hose over the top.. Works great and saves any drill swarf getting into the box. 1/2"(id) air hose or garden hose fits over the socket nicely.
BTW... 4 breathers are better than one and I'm sure Supercrap $2 fuel filters are cheaper than the one pictured above.
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atari4x4

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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:29 am |
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unique_seek wrote: negatve pressure?? do explain....the breather in a diff/gearbox/transfer is to allow for expansion...
DO NOT PUT ANY BREATHER INTO AN ENGINE INTAKE AIRBOX!!!
The vacuum WILL create a low pressure in the diffs/gearbox/transfer and when going through water, they will suck water in past the seals.
99% of all externally facing seals only seal one way....
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 12:42 am |
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Thanks for the replys fellas. It was going to work well in theory. I'll go with 3 breathers now. 1 for box and t'fer and 1 on each of the diffs. Where is a good place to mount the rear diff breather??
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lesspostingmorewheeling
Joined: Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2236 Location: Under Down Under
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 1:22 am |
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mount the rear one in the engine bay with the other 2
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:02 am |
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agreed with want33s on the gearbox breather.just remove the little round plug/hat bit and the hose slots straight over.
If i may ask a question is it really bad to have them all running to one filter/breather cap??and why?
 thats mine which only has the diffs hooked up at the moment with a breather cap that works like standard.Also i believe with the clear hose the hose with the red line around it is oil resistant or is my boss pulling my leg?$13 dollars from local bearing place for the Y piece,Breather cap,2 1/2" hose tails and 4 hose clamps.Bout $25 for hose
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 2:31 pm |
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The breather hoses don't 'really' need to be oil resistant because under normal operating conditions there is no oil in any of them, only air.
My setup is 1/2" id air hose with plastic joiners in two of them because I remounted the breathers which are $2 supercrap plastic fuel filters.
This setup has worked fine for 2 1/2 years and my car has been rolled LOTS of times.
APPSIE: Your setup looks extremely heavy duty.  I would think overkill for a Zook.
Jas.
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:07 pm |
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All done gents..I went down the road that want33s had done. I shared a breather with the t'fer and box - is that ok or a bit dodgy?? You won't believe me if I told you all that I tryed 3 supercheaps and no filters...repco only had 3!...I assume it will do the job...sorry if it looks like a copy of yours want33s...I am hoping the trusty garden hose will hold out..time will tell
Thanks to those who commented...helped me out a lot.
Cheers
Rusho
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:12 pm |
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Forgot one
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8136 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:17 pm |
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Good work .... I'll send the bank details so you can pay royalties...
Just keep an eye on the garden hose... Check it at least every 6 months. You will have to replace it eventually but thats a cheap, easy job.
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:38 pm |
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I thought as much...I still got a spare few meters...I should have got the 30 meter role damn it!!! You should put a copyright on it!!
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 1:33 am |
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you can also get TP hose from hose suppliers, looks like clear garden hose with a blue and yellow stripe and it oil resistant
also no reason you cant join them up, not a lot of flow going on there
same with airbox, if you have any kind of vacuum on the intake side of the filter you have bigger problems to worry about
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 2:57 am |
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I ran my rear diff breather up into the fuel filler neck cover. It sorta follows the filler hose from the tank.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2009 4:11 am |
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good job mate,they turned out well in the end and as long as they serve their purpose you've won
jas,it may be a bit of overkill but i was at the shop at the time,was cheap and looked pretty neat.if not i was going to supercheap from there to go the fuel filter path.cheers
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beef13
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 208 Location: Adelaide
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i can't find where to attach the breather on the gearbox, can someone please describe where it is or pictures would be even better
thanks!
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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Its hidden up the top near the back of the box. Its only small, raised bit of tube kinda. Not real very clear directions, I could find it in a few seconds but I suck at trying to explain things. Sorry, hope that helps you.
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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 240 Location: brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:49 am |
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garden hose dose not last long, it goes hard and kinks and breaks, i had it on my car for about 6weeks, its not good, dose any one do kits for a zook?
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Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:15 pm |
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Mine is still going well....you must have got cheap garden hose!!! I think there might have been a link at the start somewhere about a kit, it's the type hat needs holes tapped into your diffs though.
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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
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Good work rusho. The trio of filters looks real tidy.
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Choppy

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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1074 Location: sunshinecoast
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i might be doing up some diff breather sthis week and i'm defiantely stealing this idea, would any one suggest or does anybody use air compressor hose?? would 10mm fit??
cheers choppy
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atari4x4

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i used the mini fuel filters & drilled out some alloy valve caps for the extra layer of rice...

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Joined: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1074 Location: sunshinecoast
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atari4x4 wrote: i used the mini fuel filters & drilled out some alloy valve caps for the extra layer of rice... 
that is some nice work atari, infact ur whole rig is nice, what hose did u use??
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