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buglemcdougle
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:27 pm Posts: 21 Location: South Coast NSW
Vehicle: Sierra & Jimny
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I bought these LED's from eBay & used some checker plate to mount in original bar. I want to eventually use them in a custom rear bar...who knows when that will be! Attachment: light2.jpeg Attachment: light1.jpeg
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douglasgiersch
Joined: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:40 pm Posts: 283 Location: Lowesdale Southern NSW (Close to Albury)
Vehicle: 82 Sierra SWB soft top
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:00 pm |
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Not to bad got a shot at night? how much they set you back?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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They don't look like they have a reflector? - Whilst the lights themselves might be ADR approved, your car isn't ADR approved without red reflectors on the rear.
Just something to consider.
Steve.
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Trypt
Joined: Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:19 am Posts: 492
Vehicle: 1.3 Tin Top
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:54 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: They don't look like they have a reflector? - Whilst the lights themselves might be ADR approved, your car isn't ADR approved without red reflectors on the rear.
Just something to consider.
Steve. You can get small reflectors from supercrap, dirt cheap. makes it legal and unless u know ur mechanic well it wont pass rego.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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X2 Trypt
Also remember to fit resistors or a LED flasher unit* to ensure the flash speed is correct.
*A note here. LED flashers are sold as "motorcycle" flashers. I don't actually believe they are legal for use in a road car, so you might not pass rego with one. Here's the reasons:
1) LED flashers aren't load sensitive, so if one of the incandescent bulbs still in the system fails, there's no indication as the flasher flashes the same rate regardless of what's hooked to it
2) There's no audible "click" when the indicators operate. This is a requirement, and you won't find a car without an audible click.
I use an LED flasher. When I took my car originally for a RWC, it failed for indicator flash speed. I used resistors initially, but subsequently swapped to an LED flasher.
Just some stuff.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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buglemcdougle
Joined: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:27 pm Posts: 21 Location: South Coast NSW
Vehicle: Sierra & Jimny
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Cost $44.50 delivered for the pair, bought them from brightlightautoparts on eBay, I bid on them, pretty happy with the price. No reflectors...I just haven't had a chance to put some on...might visit SuperSteep tomorrow. I bought an electronic flasher from eBay: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/180895413118 ... 101wt_1139Really poor build quality though, I had to remove all the components from the board, and re-solder them directly to each other, I also had to swap two pins around for it to work correctly...what do you expect for $2 though. This unit has an audible click as well...i'd say it is right on the limit of legality though. Some night pics...lets just say they are bright! Attachment: brake.jpeg Attachment: reverse.jpeg
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gvzookdriver
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Joined: Mon Apr 13, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1833 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: Sold zuk got a Bt50
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abclarke wrote: Like Steve said i found an LED flasher to be alot easier to be honest. This is the one i bought and its pretty close to the original speed http://www.brightlightautoparts.com/NEW ... ORIES.htmlI got the CF13JL-02 im pretty sure  Can someone confirm what is the right model because im going to need one of these as well Oh and nice lights by the way
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want33s
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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Gwagensteve wrote: X2 Trypt
Also remember to fit resistors or a LED flasher unit* to ensure the flash speed is correct.
*A note here. LED flashers are sold as "motorcycle" flashers. I don't actually believe they are legal for use in a road car, so you might not pass rego with one. Here's the reasons:
1) LED flashers aren't load sensitive, so if one of the incandescent bulbs still in the system fails, there's no indication as the flasher flashes the same rate regardless of what's hooked to it
2) There's no audible "click" when the indicators operate. This is a requirement, and you won't find a car without an audible click.
I use an LED flasher. When I took my car originally for a RWC, it failed for indicator flash speed. I used resistors initially, but subsequently swapped to an LED flasher.
Just some stuff.
Steve. A mates missus has a little Mazda 3.. All the indicators are LEDS on it and when flashing you can hear a tick tick. There is a friggin speaker under the dash to make the noise....  
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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gvzookdriver wrote: abclarke wrote: Like Steve said i found an LED flasher to be alot easier to be honest. This is the one i bought and its pretty close to the original speed http://www.brightlightautoparts.com/NEW ... ORIES.htmlI got the CF13JL-02 im pretty sure Can someone confirm what is the right model because im going to need one of these as well Oh and nice lights by the way Hey mate just checked my invoice I had saved and yes this is the right model
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sierrajim
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 345 Location: Hugging Royce behind the shelter shed
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra
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want33s wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: X2 Trypt
Also remember to fit resistors or a LED flasher unit* to ensure the flash speed is correct.
*A note here. LED flashers are sold as "motorcycle" flashers. I don't actually believe they are legal for use in a road car, so you might not pass rego with one. Here's the reasons:
1) LED flashers aren't load sensitive, so if one of the incandescent bulbs still in the system fails, there's no indication as the flasher flashes the same rate regardless of what's hooked to it
2) There's no audible "click" when the indicators operate. This is a requirement, and you won't find a car without an audible click.
I use an LED flasher. When I took my car originally for a RWC, it failed for indicator flash speed. I used resistors initially, but subsequently swapped to an LED flasher.
Just some stuff.
Steve. A mates missus has a little Mazda 3.. All the indicators are LEDS on it and when flashing you can hear a tick tick. There is a friggin speaker under the dash to make the noise.... Funny, most new cars don't have flasher cans, they use a clicking noise through the speakers to make the noise. Perhaps the dealer can reprogram the noise down a little with the factory scan tool.
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Tyron
Joined: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:12 am Posts: 366
Vehicle: ***
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Don't really like them on the original bumper.
But farout they're bright.
Will look good on a custom rear bar i think. Cant wait to see it
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sideways
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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5933 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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Does it have to be a tick or can it just be any audible noise? It would be very easy to wire a buzzer in.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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sideways wrote: Does it have to be a tick or can it just be any audible noise? It would be very easy to wire a buzzer in. Afaik the tick comes from the relay anyway doesnt it?
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midlife zook
Joined: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:42 pm Posts: 14
Vehicle: 89 swb sj50 widetrack
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not bad for led taillights. i will post picks of my new led lights i have custom fitted to my sj50 rear bumper. you think the above are bright !!!
also be a bit carefull with the cheaper led tail lights as i am in the trade and have had a them just short out as they are not super water tight.
mine cost $300.00 for indicators and brakes
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just_cruizin
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Ok the ADR states the if a bulb fails the driver must be made aware, this is done by either a audiable or visual indication. That means the clicking get faster or the flashing gets faster. (this was back when I was in the industry - 8 years ago) that means if you had a warning light on the dash or a buzzer that detected a blown bulb, failed LED that would suffice.
Remember most Roady/ Safety Cert guys don't really know the rules, they just know the norm therefore if something is different they're lost.
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sideways
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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5933 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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abclarke wrote: sideways wrote: Does it have to be a tick or can it just be any audible noise? It would be very easy to wire a buzzer in. Afaik the tick comes from the relay anyway doesnt it? Haven't we just concluded that LED relays don't click? just_cruizin wrote: Remember most Roady/ Safety Cert guys don't really know the rules, they just know the norm therefore if something is different they're lost. It's not like they're going to remove a bulb/unplug a light to test it anyway. You're just a bit fucked if you get caught on the road with a dead light.
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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sideways wrote:
It's not like they're going to remove a bulb/unplug a light to test it anyway. You're just a bit fucked if you get caught on the road with a dead light.
I've been driving around with a blown headlight bulb for weeks. I even had a copper wave to me at the lights the other night. Rolled down his window to tell me I had a light out. Funny thing is, so did he  Checking your lights are working is just part of owning a car. Non-clicky relay should be fine, just ve vigilant. 
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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Gwagensteve wrote: X2 Trypt
Also remember to fit resistors or a LED flasher unit* to ensure the flash speed is correct.
*A note here. LED flashers are sold as "motorcycle" flashers. I don't actually believe they are legal for use in a road car, so you might not pass rego with one. Here's the reasons:
1) LED flashers aren't load sensitive, so if one of the incandescent bulbs still in the system fails, there's no indication as the flasher flashes the same rate regardless of what's hooked to it
2) There's no audible "click" when the indicators operate. This is a requirement, and you won't find a car without an audible click.
I use an LED flasher. When I took my car originally for a RWC, it failed for indicator flash speed. I used resistors initially, but subsequently swapped to an LED flasher.
Just some stuff.
Steve. U can buy an led flashing relay that will swap ur old indicator relay .plugs strait in and it always flashes the same speed matter what and u can hear it tick still .mine was like $15-$30 off eBay ,cos I had the same problem
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rob45x
Joined: Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:09 pm Posts: 813 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 92 sierra tintop, 88 WT sj50
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In Nsw it doesnt have to 'click' just as long as the indicator lights on the dash work then its all good
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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sideways wrote: abclarke wrote: sideways wrote: Does it have to be a tick or can it just be any audible noise? It would be very easy to wire a buzzer in. Afaik the tick comes from the relay anyway doesnt it? Haven't we just concluded that LED relays don't click? Dont know whats clicking when my indicators are on then?
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