[tombutt]

id love one of these but dont think the police or transport department would like it too much in qld and i cant afford a second car to drive i everyday

[atari4x4]

Joe, this is SOOOO tempting, just wondering if this will suit the extra width of the chassis & wheel track on the SV420 Vitara's?

I think I'll have to visit an engineer on Monday & show him the photo's of the completed diff & all the steps of construction to see what he says.

Anyone want to buy a steel diff housing.....

[Bucket]

I'll take it off your hands, if you wanna install it to.

Thanks, i live across the border. Seeya soon

[joeblow]

Bucket wrote:

Would breakable parts be designed around something that can be purchased off the shelf or at least commonly found?

I think the diffs awesome, but that would always be in the back of my mind.

yes, that has been my whole goal. i don't mind modding the hell out of stuff but when it comes to service items such as front axles i like to use stuff 'off the shelf'.


and as far as the sv420 wide track will go (or a v6 estate) you use sierra hubs, jimny inner axles and 1 litre cv's (which can be bought brand new from places like cbc bearings).

[got_bar_work]

will this take a gv center with sierra side gears with 5.12 and lockright
what link setup you using if u do a kit and wat will the lift hight

[gman]

I don't understand why one would go to all this trouble and cost and than use Jimny and 1litre cv joints to send power to the front wheels. Its like building a strong concrete bridge but having timber ramps to get onto it. Ive used 1 litre cv's in Jimny's in the past and sure they are a cheaper alternative to buy than a genuine Jimny joint (last time I asked they come with the axle) but a happy little 1.3 ltr jimny with 235/75r15's can easily put an end to these cv's and axles....

whats the 1.6 or 2 litr or the V6 gonna do to them!!

Don't get me wrong, I think Joe has done a fantastic job with all the Fabing and design. But the ppl that will want a solid Vitara Front Axle are going to want to run at least a 30 or 31 and I'm sure there gonna wanna drive what ever they want when on the track.

[joeblow]

gman wrote:

I don't understand why one would go to all this trouble and cost and than use Jimny and 1litre cv joints to send power to the front wheels. Its like building a strong concrete bridge but having timber ramps to get onto it. Ive used 1 litre cv's in Jimny's in the past and sure they are a cheaper alternative to buy than a genuine Jimny joint (last time I asked they come with the axle) but a happy little 1.3 ltr jimny with 235/75r15's can easily put an end to these cv's and axles....

whats the 1.6 or 2 litr or the V6 gonna do to them!!

Don't get me wrong, I think Joe has done a fantastic job with all the Fabing and design. But the ppl that will want a solid Vitara Front Axle are going to want to run at least a 30 or 31 and I'm sure there gonna wanna drive what ever they want when on the track.

firstly, how did you use 1.0 litre cv's in a jimny? thier stub axles are setup for sierra width bearings and not the cassete type the jimnys use, unless you bolted the whole sierra spindle to it also.

i had a jimny, and i broke just about everything....except the cv's. but i knew how to deliver power to my drivetrain within reason. everyone one else i knew also broke many other things, but not cv's (due partly to the nice 'twistieness' of thier long axles).mine had 31 x 10.5's and 32 swampers.

people can use those axles, but if they want they can organise chromos which are now available for jimnys.

the big thing about using standard gear for me is YOU BREAK ONE YOU GET ONE OFF THE SHELF.

[royce]

Would be nice if further down the track when you are cutting your own axles to make some up to run 26 spline diffs and them big fancy CV's all the cool sierra guys run

[joeblow]

royce wrote:

Would be nice if further down the track when you are cutting your own axles to make some up to run 26 spline diffs and them big fancy CV's all the cool sierra guys run

thats why i'm trying to score these new machines .....will find out tommorow arvo.

[royce]

joeblow wrote:

royce wrote:

Would be nice if further down the track when you are cutting your own axles to make some up to run 26 spline diffs and them big fancy CV's all the cool sierra guys run

thats why i'm trying to score these new machines .....will find out tommorow arvo.

and rear axles for full floater conversions

[joeblow]

royce wrote:

joeblow wrote:

royce wrote:

Would be nice if further down the track when you are cutting your own axles to make some up to run 26 spline diffs and them big fancy CV's all the cool sierra guys run

thats why i'm trying to score these new machines .....will find out tommorow arvo.

and rear axles for full floater conversions

nahh.......aint had a need for those................
















but will be standard with the portal hubs.

[Joe]

joeblow wrote:

royce wrote:

joeblow wrote:

royce wrote:

Would be nice if further down the track when you are cutting your own axles to make some up to run 26 spline diffs and them big fancy CV's all the cool sierra guys run

thats why i'm trying to score these new machines .....will find out tommorow arvo.

and rear axles for full floater conversions

nahh.......aint had a need for those................
















but will be standard with the portal hubs.

Now were talking will these be for the sas only or for ifs aswell????

[gman]

joeblow wrote:

gman wrote:

I don't understand why one would go to all this trouble and cost and than use Jimny and 1litre cv joints to send power to the front wheels. Its like building a strong concrete bridge but having timber ramps to get onto it. Ive used 1 litre cv's in Jimny's in the past and sure they are a cheaper alternative to buy than a genuine Jimny joint (last time I asked they come with the axle) but a happy little 1.3 ltr jimny with 235/75r15's can easily put an end to these cv's and axles....

whats the 1.6 or 2 litr or the V6 gonna do to them!!

Don't get me wrong, I think Joe has done a fantastic job with all the Fabing and design. But the ppl that will want a solid Vitara Front Axle are going to want to run at least a 30 or 31 and I'm sure there gonna wanna drive what ever they want when on the track.

firstly, how did you use 1.0 litre cv's in a jimny? thier stub axles are setup for sierra width bearings and not the cassete type the jimnys use, unless you bolted the whole sierra spindle to it also.


Haha, exactly, you know your zook shit , the sierra spindle was used so I could run Sierra wheel bearings for the ease of parts and repair if needed, away from the workshop also to run 1 ltr Cv's and fit freewheeling hubs. it all started must have been around 03 or 04, toying with the idea to fit complete sierra wt axles,cv's etc to my jimny housing as the only thing I was breaking in my Jim's Driveline regularly were Cv's and axles. rear diff ran out of oil once (as they do) and the front diff carrier twisted and rooted itself once too. that also will happen when flogging it.

the Cv's used break like candy canes and I've heard many a stock jimny with clicky Cv's in the bush

i had a jimny, and i broke just about everything....except the cv's. but i knew how to deliver power to my drivetrain within reason. everyone one else i knew also broke many other things, but not cv's (due partly to the nice 'twistieness' of thier long axles).mine had 31 x 10.5's and 32 swampers. 30x9.5's was enough for me. from owning sierra's before buying the Jimny new, the Jimny has always been driven with a soft right foot knowing it was never going to be as tuff as a sierra. but much nicer to drive 3000km's on adventures.

people can use those axles, but if they want they can organise chromos which are now available for jimnys. this would be a great option

the big thing about using standard gear for me is YOU BREAK ONE YOU GET ONE OFF THE SHELF.
yeah sure but having gear strong enough to only break when you've done something dumb would also be good.

I've tried to make my jimny stronger for years but with out the money and the awesome gear you have. I've started to go down the Hilux axle road with the rear diff already cut down on the RHS to bring it to stock track width had it fitted for 12months commuting to 140kms per day to work and it was working a treat but for a few reason found a wreaked Jim and converted it all back to standard. the Hilux project is under the house waiting to be finished..... one day I under stand you like to stay Suzuki on Suzuki projects fair enough, Keep up the great work you luck barstard with all the awesome tools in ya shed

[kenn]

Yeah. keep up the great work you HARD WORKING barsterd (who has spent years accumulating the awsome tools and knowledge of how to use them).


Joe's lucky he's not dead , the rest is planing, sacrifice and hard work.
I think we're the lucky one's to have your help when needed here.
Thankyou.

[dezook]

Soooo, Are you going to do it atari???????

[atari4x4]

dezook wrote:

Soooo, Are you going to do it atari???????

[hegs218]

any progress guys?
Very interested to see how this goes

[joeblow]

just awaiting for 2 more people to put thier hands up.

[hegs218]

joe can you pm me some pricing/timeframe info?
Id love to put my handup

[joeblow]

hegs218 wrote:

joe can you pm me some pricing/timeframe info?
Id love to put my handup

page 5 towards the bottom you will find some more info.

[kenn]

I think my hand is beeing ignored

[dezook]

Hey kenn Did you "pm" joe, He won't accept the hand unless it's Pm'd

[kenn]

dezook wrote:

Hey kenn Did you "pm" joe, He won't accept the hand unless it's Pm'd

Pm to Joe is like writing a letter to Santa...
There both pretty busy i suppose.

[Mick70b]

Hey Joe, Just wondering if you're still looking at doing a similar IFS diff housing, Similar to the Calmini one that uses 2 x shorter cv shafts?

Seeing as the Calmini ones are about US$550 + freight, and the steel GV housings are getting harder and more expensive to get, I (and I'm sure a few others) would be VERY keen to see your version out there (SOON)!

[dezook]

Let's fill the third solid axle position please people. Come on, someone please put me out of my misery and take up a spot in history

[joeblow]

dezook wrote:

Hey kenn Did you "pm" joe, He won't accept the hand unless it's Pm'd

haha....kenn was best man at my wedding.....he knows where i live

[joeblow]

Mick70b wrote:

Hey Joe, Just wondering if you're still looking at doing a similar IFS diff housing, Similar to the Calmini one that uses 2 x shorter cv shafts?

Seeing as the Calmini ones are about US$550 + freight, and the steel GV housings are getting harder and more expensive to get, I (and I'm sure a few others) would be VERY keen to see your version out there (SOON)!

this is on the cards as soon as i've done the solid version.

[dezook]

Had any more takers joe? Would love to see some photo's of any new creations happening down in your back yard/shed

[joeblow]

dezook wrote:

Had any more takers joe? Would love to see some photo's of any new creations happening down in your back yard/shed

i think we might have enough to make a start soon.

i have been toying around with the coil mount position, something which has to be sorted properly. the guys in the states tend to make brackets off the rear of the diff, something i wish to avoid due to the roational strain on the diff. the other option is to cut and shut the towers to opposite sides!..... ...don't want to do that either.

so, when i get my arms for my vehicle i will toy with the idea of a two piece coil seat that will bolt to the control arm itself so its in line with the current tower. the seats will be machined with a helix for correct coil 'seatage'....

[ODA1]