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RIKSTR
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:18 pm |
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I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.
Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS.
We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them.
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LJ50
Front 1130mm
Rear 1140mm
LJ80
Front 1230mm
Rear 1240mm
Sierra NT
Front 1250mm
Rear 1260mm
Sierra WT
Front 1340mm
Rear 1350mm
Vitara
Front 1435mm
Rear 1440mm
Vitara V6
Front
Rear
Jimny
Front
Rear
Grand Vitara
Front
Rear
Grand Vitara XL7
Front
Rear 1510mm 
Donors
Hilux (79-85)
Front 1397mm
Rear 1397mm
Hilux (86- )
Front 1397mm
Rear 1473mm
Bundera (insert year)
Front 1397mm
Rear
TJ Wrangler (Danas')
Front Dana 30 1563mm
Rear Dana 44 1563mm
Cruiser (40 Series)
Front 1447mm
Rear 1397mm
Cruiser (60 Series)
Front 1524mm
Rear 1473mm
Cruiser (70 Series)
Front
Rear
Cruiser (80 Series)
Front 1625mm
Rear 1612mm
Patrol MQ
Front 1422mm
Rear 1422mm
Patrol GQ
Front 1574mm
Rear 1574mm
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BlueSuzy
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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9708 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:27 pm |
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Hilux ifs rear
Cruiser 70/3/5/8/9 series.
Cruiser 100 series. Solid axle front.
Pootrol Mq/Mk
Pootrol GQ
Pootrol Gu
Good idea but no need to make a poll about it.  _________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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RIKSTR
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:33 pm |
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Never did a poll before probably wont do one again 
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BlueSuzy
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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9708 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 2:40 pm |
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oh  _________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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lump_a_charcoal
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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:25 pm |
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Timmay has done plenty of poles...
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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timmy got his freak on
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BlueSuzy
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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9708 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:25 pm |
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I dont think i have done any polls.
But when you tell your missus about the suzuki, she wont be climbing your pole anytime soon.( i so hope she reads this)  _________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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kreecha
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 115 Location: Darwin
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:44 pm |
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By brake to brake width do you mean WMS to WMS?
Not trying to be a picky bastard, just other resources (pirate, IH8MUD) use WMS.
cheers, Davo.
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:11 pm |
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kreecha wrote: By brake to brake width do you mean WMS to WMS?
Not trying to be a picky bastard, just other resources (pirate, IH8MUD) use WMS.
cheers, Davo.
Wheel mounting surface - as in the flange that that the wheel mounts against. Diff measurement is done from one WMS to the other WMS.
Layto....
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:18 pm |
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RIKSTR wrote: I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy. Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS. We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them. The ListLJ50 Front Rear LJ80 Front Rear Sierra NT Front - 50 Rear - 50 Sierra WT Front - 52 Rear - 52 Vitara Front ? Rear - ~56 Vitara V6 Front Rear Jimny Front Rear Grand Vitara Front Rear Grand Vitara (Independent) Front Rear DonorsHilux (insert year) Front - 55 (Pre IFS) Rear - 55 (pre IFS) - 58 (IFS) Bundera (insert year) Front (see hilux, but offset rear) Rear TJ Wrangler (Danas') - Which dana, there are THOUSANDS of setups, from jeep, chev, ford etc etc, rangin from pissy dana 25's up to full size dana 70's with 80 inch WMS-WMS. I hve a large list of widths, offset and stud patterns i will try to dig up, it lists the more useful ones. Even the wranglers had different Dana's depending on make model Rubicon spec etc Front Rear Cruiser (40 Series) Front ~55 Rear ~ 55 Cruiser (60 Series) Front - ~60 Rear - ~60 Cruiser (70 Series) Front Rear Cruiser (80 Series) Front - 63 Rear - 63 Patrol MQ Front -56 Rear - 56 Patrol GQ Front - ~62 Rear- 62 Some of these are from memory, i will dig up and check what i have noted down, i have every toyota diff except the 40 series sitting round so i will measure them on the weekend too and correct any mistakes.
Layto....
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303zuke
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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:36 pm |
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RIKSTR wrote: I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy.
Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion.
We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') .....
The List
I work in Millimetres, it's a bit more accurate than "to the nearest Inch"
LJ50
Front 1130mm
Rear 1140mm
LJ80
Front 1230mm
Rear 1240mm
Sierra NT
Front 1250mm
Rear 1260mm
Sierra WT
Front 1340mm
Rear 1350mm
Vitara
Front 1435mm
Rear 1440mm
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kreecha
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 115 Location: Darwin
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:55 pm |
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LAY80N wrote: kreecha wrote: By brake to brake width do you mean WMS to WMS?
Not trying to be a picky bastard, just other resources (pirate, IH8MUD) use WMS.
cheers, Davo. Wheel mounting surface - as in the flange that that the wheel mounts against. Diff measurement is done from one WMS to the other WMS. Layto.... Yep that is what I was saying mate.
And if anyone cares, 80 hubs fit on 60 diffs, and viceversa.
This makes fitting discs to a 60 a tad easier, also a cheap way to (legally) widen a 60 rear. The standard brakes don't fit then though, they do not mix and match.
And the 60's are good offsets for sierra's. (big pumpkin though.  ), and I should know..... I have some waiting at home for me. 
Cheers, Davo.
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RIKSTR
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 2:15 pm |
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WMS to WMS is what I was after
I have updated to first post with the numbers
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RIKSTR
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Joined: Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1278 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:20 am |
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 12:24 am |
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maybe a move to good tech would be a good idea.....
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:47 am |
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My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. 
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:55 am |
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ZookiMonsta wrote: My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. So your axle is wider than a mog diff? I think not. 
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Bucket
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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
Vehicle: SJ50 hardtop!
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:57 am |
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I believe gu diffs are 25mm wider per side then gq
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:24 am |
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Fatzook wrote: ZookiMonsta wrote: My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. So your axle is wider than a mog diff? I think not. No, but the wheel track is... side wall to side wall.
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Fatzook
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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 11:36 am |
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ZookiMonsta wrote: Fatzook wrote: ZookiMonsta wrote: My coily is 1725mm without wheelspacers. So your axle is wider than a mog diff? I think not. No, but the wheel track is... side wall to side wall. Ok. This thread is about WMS to WMS measurements.
Does anyone know if SV diffs are the same width as SQ GV----> diffs?
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 4:22 am |
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Does any one know what the gv wms to wms is
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Tue Mar 15, 2011 5:13 am |
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RIKSTR wrote: I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy. Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS. We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them. The ListLJ50 Front 1130mm Rear 1140mm LJ80 Front 1230mm Rear 1240mm Sierra NT Front 1250mm Rear 1260mm Sierra WT Front 1340mm Rear 1350mm Vitara Front 1435mm Rear 1440mm Vitara V6 Front Rear Jimny Front Rear Grand Vitara Front Rear 1510mm Grand Vitara XL7 Front Rear 1510mm DonorsHilux (79-85) Front 1397mm Rear 1397mm Hilux (86- ) Front 1397mm Rear 1473mm Bundera (insert year) Front 1397mm Rear TJ Wrangler (Danas') Front Dana 30 1563mm Rear Dana 44 1563mm Cruiser (40 Series) Front 1447mm Rear 1397mm Cruiser (60 Series) Front 1524mm Rear 1473mm Cruiser (70 Series) Front Rear Cruiser (80 Series) Front 1625mm Rear 1612mm Patrol MQ Front 1422mm Rear 1422mm Patrol GQ Front 1574mm Rear 1574mm
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gregdixon
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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:55 am |
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Built4thrashing wrote: RIKSTR wrote: I am after some information and I am sure with some of the people that are here this will be easy. Brake to brake widths for different axles. This info will be great for anyone doing an axle conversion or an SAS. We should start with the easy ones (Suzukis') and then add compatible axles as we find them. The ListLJ50 Front 1130mm Rear 1140mm LJ80 Front 1230mm Rear 1240mm Sierra NT Front 1250mm Rear 1260mm Sierra WT Front 1340mm Rear 1350mm Vitara Front 1435mm Rear 1440mm Vitara V6 Front Rear Jimny Front Rear Grand Vitara Front Rear 1510mm Grand Vitara XL7 Front Rear 1510mm DonorsHilux (79-85) Front 1397mm Rear 1397mm Hilux (86- ) Front 1397mm Rear 1473mm Bundera (insert year) Front 1397mm Rear TJ Wrangler (Danas') Front Dana 30 1563mm Rear Dana 44 1563mm Cruiser (40 Series) Front 1447mm Rear 1397mm Cruiser (60 Series) Front 1524mm Rear 1473mm Cruiser (70 Series) Front Rear Cruiser (80 Series) Front 1625mm Rear 1612mm Patrol MQ Front 1422mm Rear 1422mm Patrol GQ Front 1574mm Rear 1574mm You thinking 28 spline rear diff to replace the GV 26 spline???
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:21 am |
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if you could get other ratios it would be an option.
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gregdixon
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Joined: Sun Dec 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1017 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 2004 SQ625 GV
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 8:36 am |
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Man 4.3 and auto 5.13. Not sure if they changed the crown wheel and pinion sizes. I would have thought they just put bigger axles in. Might be tough gettin a locker though.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:30 pm |
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I thought that the xl7 was wider then the gv
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:46 am |
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got_bar_work wrote: I thought that the xl7 was wider then the gv
Just longer. rear body work might be wider but thats it
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Zook_Fan
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Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 10:32 am |
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bit of a stretch but people wouldn't have weights of these as well?
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2011 10:34 pm |
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anyone got the WMS of the SV420?
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SierraDan
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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9347 Location: Newcastle
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Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:52 pm |
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anybody know the width of a 70series rear?
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