[Polar_Bear]

As there are a few of us building up tougher vitaras, and mines currently under construction, ive been thinking about a few mods to the front end to increase its strength. Most of us now have swapped over to a steel gv housing and carrier, and fitted an ARB air locker. next on the list to give up would be the cv's.

One simple mod cj from victorian suzuki club pioneered was to add a bearing to the drivers size of the diff housing to provide the inner cv shaft more support. There was a thread on this floating around on a forum somewhere a while ago, but i cant remember where it was, i do however have the CAD drawing of the bearing holder he had machined up. Since then suzuki must have realised this is weak point in the front end and have released their own nylon bush, as shown in another thread here.

Mugwui wrote:

Stuey wrote:

At one point I had remembered reading a thread here on Auszookers regarding a problem with diff oil leaking from around the drivers side front driveshaft where it meets the diff housing. Due to a lack of a bearing support on this side, the shaft would wear and cause excess play causing the oil seal to stretch and consequently leak oil. Forum user ZX1990 informed me of a Suzuki part that had been released to rectify this problem. It is a nylon type bush that slides into the diff housing and it is retained by the outer oil seal. This bush provides support to the shaft and prevents the excess wear. I thought this was a worthwhile investment whilst the housing was apart and before new seals were put in.

ive also found a thread about it on another forum here
http://www.suzuki-forums.com/2g-2006-gr ... lay-2.html

apparently its about 100 odd bucks for this nylon bush from suzuki.

back to my question, would this nylon bush to the job, or would I be better off machining up the bearing holder and putting a propper bearing in there?

attached is the CAD drawing of the bearing holder cj had made.

[Saam]

bruce should get a hold of those nylon puppies, are they meant to stop the stress that causes the housing to break ?

[Polar_Bear]

nah, more to stop the play in the cv where it goes into the housng, as its only supported by the diff centre

[Saam]

what problems does the play cause ?

[atari4x4]

yes please.....

[steak_knife]

atari4x4 wrote:

yes please.....

X2 ,Price depending. Suzuki quoted me $132 today & I it`s just nylon.

It would do the job tho, being oiled.

[gvzookdriver]

Yes please..... i would like one to but depends on price.

[Bruce]

Gee all I need is one new part and I can make them. Dam site cheaper than that.

[steak_knife]

Bruce wrote:

Gee all I need is one new part and I can make them. Dam site cheaper than that.

DONE!!!! I`ll get tomorrow & pm ya..

[ODA1]

woo hoo

[Bruce]

steknig wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Gee all I need is one new part and I can make them. Dam site cheaper than that.

DONE!!!! I`ll get tomorrow & pm ya..

No worries mate. I work at Brendale.

[steak_knife]

I`ll pm ya, probly won`t get it to you till Friday arvo, what time you knock off??

I don`t mind putting up the coin as more people will benefit from it, Suzuki`s price is crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ODA1]

he knocks off early but i can pick it up from you and drop it into bruce early next week

[steak_knife]

ODA1 wrote:

he knocks off early but i can pick it up from you and drop it into bruce early next week

Sound`s good, How ya bin Tim??

[Polar_Bear]

[quote="Saam"]what problems does the play cause ?[/quote

It can allow the cv to move around slightly as it is only retained by the splines that go into the side gears of the diff, which is only a real problem under extreme load. Aparently it has also lead to excessive seal wear on gv's that don't have free wheeling hubs fitted.

[ODA1]

busy

http://outdoorauto.blogspot.com/

lifted a new gv 4inches the other day .

when can i book ya in for help me to service the GV
( brakes, diff oil and fit extractors )

i should probably wait until bruce has the bush made as im sure i need that

[steak_knife]

Polar_Bear wrote:

Saam wrote:

what problems does the play cause ?[/quote

It can allow the cv to move around slightly as it is only retained by the splines that go into the side gears of the diff, which is only a real problem under extreme load. Aparently it has also lead to excessive seal wear on gv's that don't have free wheeling hubs fitted.

True, but if the play is there, let`s get rid of it, I think a bearing is overkill.
This bush will do the job nicely..

[steak_knife]

ODA1 wrote:

busy

http://outdoorauto.blogspot.com/

lifted a new gv 4inches the other day .

when can i book ya in for help me to service the GV
( brakes, diff oil and fit extractors )

When ever mate..

i should probably wait until bruce has the bush made as im sure i need that

That`s a center out job, you`d want to make me lot`s of cup`s of tea for that 1

[ODA1]

we could fit one to your GV too and depending on the day i was thinking bbq and a beer

[steak_knife]

ODA1 wrote:

well depending on the day i was thinking bbq and a beer

I`m reformed, bin sober since 26 Dec last year, tea for me!

[ODA1]

cool as im not a drinker im not the guy you send to the bottle shop to get supplies

[steak_knife]

Suite! I`ll ring youwhen I get the bush..

[royce]

steknig wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Gee all I need is one new part and I can make them. Dam site cheaper than that.

DONE!!!! I`ll get tomorrow & pm ya..

I'm at Eagle farm all day and see the ugly fat bastard (Bruce) most weekends if it makes it easier

Good on yas for doing something for the good of the suzuki community

[steak_knife]

I benefit too, so, ALL GOOD!!

[Fluffy]

thats steep.. for a nylon bush.. you could nock one up at half the price and make a profit!..

[steak_knife]

Bruce wrote:

steknig wrote:

Bruce wrote:

Gee all I need is one new part and I can make them. Dam site cheaper than that.

DONE!!!! I`ll get tomorrow & pm ya..

No worries mate. I work at Brendale.

We are, he just need`s a sample..

[Stuey]

Well, if you guys can get the nylon bush to work with standard Vitara driveshafts...... tell me how! The pic of the nylon bush is from my car, and since putting in the bush I cant get the shaft to stay locked in to the diff centre. Everytime I put it in 4x4 the shaft slowly makes its way out of the housing by an inch or more. Its as if the circlip is not locking in due the fact the diff seal is now more proud with the nylon bush in behind it. This is the reason I asked steknig for a pic of a GV shaft in another thread to see if there was any difference. If anyone has a solution please share. I dont want to waste this $130 rip off price suzuki part.

[Stuey]

Keep in mind this part was originally intended for GV housings due to the shaft wear caused by non free wheeling hubs on Grand Vits. Not such an issue with earlier vitaras with Auto or free wheeling hubs. I only put it in for precaution. All its caused so far are headaches.

[Stuey]

As posted elswhere for the record Part Number:

[Mugwui]

Hey, you can count me in, and if you want to use my car ans an experiment, then lets do it as I'm about to pull it apart and put a locker in it...Happy to pay for anything needed, and I can pick the part up tomorrow and drop it off towmorrow if that helps any, I would just have to do it before 11am.